The official Red Sox - Yankees Game 4 thread.

[Joe Tall]

There will not be a Sweep.

Go Sox,
Joe Tall

[Dynasty]

It should be amusing to watch SaltCracka talk to himself in the other thread. The ALCS certainly hasn't provided much amusement for me.

[Non_Comformist]

I think it will be tough for NY to sweep as long as Bos hasn't completely given up

[Joe Tall]

I think it will be tough for NY to sweep as long as Bos hasn't completely given up

I don't think they have and D. Lowe is looking strong in the first inning.

Go Sox,
Joe Tall

[Dynasty]

Winning the ALCS is going to be like hitting a two-outer on the river. If the Sox are between 2:1 and 2.5:1 two win each indivicual game, it'll work out to about 22.5:1. Of course, history says it's harder than that.

The 1988 and 1990 losses in the ALCS to the A's were also 4-0 sweeps. They were the most unenjoyable series I ever watched. There's just no joy in an uncompettive series.

[Joe Tall]

It should be amusing to watch SaltCracka talk to himself in the other thread. The ALCS certainly hasn't provided much amusement for me.

I have to agree but there is always hope.

Peace,
Joe Tall

[Dynasty]

Do you think SaltCracka likes my sense of humor?

[Losing all]

I agree, sweeps suck! the 2000 series was maybe the worst ever. That's why Beltran's bomb was so great today. It was the first time I jumped out of my chair this post season, and I was screaming "get the fuq out" 2 or 3 seconds after it hit the seats. Good times.

I'd like to see Boston win at least one for dramatic value, if nothing else.

[Joe Tall]

Do you think SaltCracka likes my sense of humor?

Yeah, I think so. I was real tough on him today and he seems to be a good sport about it. I would even invite him to this thread but I can't respond to that thread w/that title.

Go D.Lowe!
JT

[Non_Comformist]

[ QUOTE ]
I think it will be tough for NY to sweep as long as Bos hasn't completely given up

I don't think they have and D. Lowe is looking strong in the first inning.

Go Sox,
Joe Tall

[/ QUOTE ]

As a Yankee fan I am of course rooting for a sweep but I cannot imagine the Redso laying down to the Yankees. I wouldn't be surpised if the series goes back to NY

[Joe Tall]

I wouldn't be surpised if the series goes back to NY

I wouldn't either. Granted, facing Mussina is going to be tough but it would be nice.

The lineup changes on both teams and the pitching match up is interesting, so far a pitchers duel.

Peace,
Joe Tall

[MMMMMM]

"I have to agree but there is always hope."

You and Daryn have a LOT to learn.

I hope you both remember this in 20 years.

[Toro]

Just wanted to add a post to the real Official Game 4 thread.

[ThaSaltCracka]

damnit, Joe this is the only "game" you or your teams wins today.

Why do you say that MMMMMMMMMMM?

[ThaSaltCracka]

[ QUOTE ]
Just wanted to add a post to the real Official Game 4 thread.

[/ QUOTE ]
I hate you guys.

[MMMMMM]

You too, but you're not from Boston.

[Dynasty]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Just wanted to add a post to the real Official Game 4 thread.

[/ QUOTE ]
I hate you guys.

[/ QUOTE ]

It's nice to have you hear. You know have two comments in the offical record.

[ThaSaltCracka]

you are mildly confused MMMMMM, NY will win this game because AROD crushes home runs.

[Joe Tall]

A-Rod jumped on the first one, fck.

Come on DLowe,
JT

[Joe Tall]

Now that ROCKS!

Love this town,
JT

[ThaSaltCracka]

Damon was funny, haha good times. I have never seen him throw that hard either.

[Joe Tall]

damnit, Joe this is the only "game" you or your teams wins today.

Oh, it's commin! DLowe made one mistake but it wasn't too much to handle. Glad to see you gave up and joined us! That other thread was cracking me up w/you talking to yourself.

Go Sox,
JT

[Joe Tall]

I have never seen him throw that hard either

You know what, me neither.

Go Sox,
Joe Tall

[MMMMMM]

I'm not talking about this game and I may be mildly confused. But not as confused as any Red Sox fan.

[ThaSaltCracka]

well, Neil joined me, but I was going to keep it going all night if I needed to!

BTW, you do realize that the Yankees truely own Lowe. That whole Pedro's daddy thing pales in comparison.

[Toro]

Glad to see you recognize the OFFICIAL thread Salty.

[Joe Tall]

Glad to see you recognize the OFFICIAL thread Salty.

For the record, Salty had to back-track and edit the 'official' in his thread after he saw the official thread.

I can't believe we actually got fcking Matsui out!

Go D.Lowe,
JT

[Neil Stevens]

[ QUOTE ]
I can't believe we actually got fcking Matsui out!

[/ QUOTE ]
Too little, too late.

[Toro]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I can't believe we actually got fcking Matsui out!

[/ QUOTE ]
Too little, too late.

[/ QUOTE ]

It better not be. I can't imagine going all Winter with the factoid they just gave us that the Sox lead all of 7 minutes in this series.

[Toro]

Where's all this bad Yankee pitching that Andy Fox has been telling us about for the last 3 months??

[ThaSaltCracka]

It doesn't matter anyways, I think we all know they are going to swept, so there is no point saying it.

El Duque looks sharp now.

[ThaSaltCracka]

[ QUOTE ]
Where's all this bad Yankee pitching that Andy Fox has been telling us about for the last 3 months??

[/ QUOTE ]
typical Yankee fan, we aren't complacent.

[MMMMMM]

By the way, SaltCracka, I suppose you deserve an explanation.

The Red Sox are the premier, numero uno, undisputable Chokemasters in the entire world of Sports. No other professional team, in any sport anywhere in the world, even holds a candle to them in this department.

Give them a 3-0 lead in games the next time they make it to the World Series, and a healthy lead in the 4th game, and you are flipping a coin if they win the series or not. In fact the true odds would probably be against them at that point, regardless of their opposition. They have a seemingly supernatural ability to choke in the clutch, that is all, and the strength of this power sems to increase in accordance with how close they are to a grand victory.

You, Daryn, and Joe Tall will all be old and grey before the Red Sox ever win a world series again.

I know you don't believe me, but you will, eventually. Daryn and Joe Tall will learn the hard way because they are from Boston and will cling to frail hope longer than the others.

If you don't believe me, ask John Cole. He knows too. Or should I say, he KNOWS, but he just doesn't want to really admit it. Hell, what would be the fun in that?

So you guys have your fun rooting for the Sox. I've always shot straight on this forum. Twenty years from now don't say M didn't tell you how it really is, and how it always will be. And no, Daryn, I'm not joking even in the slightest. This is the cold and painful truth.

[ThaSaltCracka]

LOL, MMMMMM, you realize I don't like the sox right?

[ThaSaltCracka]

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20041018/i/r664169200.jpg

[Joe Tall]

The fcking diamond cam sucks.

Go Sox,
JT

[MMMMMM]

[ QUOTE ]
LOL, MMMMMM, you realize I don't like the sox right?

[/ QUOTE ]

No, I did not realize that. Don't worry, Salt, you will be laughing over the years. Poor deluded Red Sox fans; I used to be one for a few days in the sun, but I learned, oh how I learned.

The key is the clutch. Don't go against them just to be going against them, or because they are the Red Sox: wait, and wait, and wait....until a really big clutch situation comes up. Then go against them with everything you can afford and you will not be disappointed.

[Joe Tall]

but I learned, oh how I learned.

You mean quit.

[ThaSaltCracka]

[ QUOTE ]
but I learned, oh how I learned.

You mean quit.

[/ QUOTE ]
yeah I agree, that seems awful fair-weatherly to me.

[MMMMMM]

I mean BOTH.

[Toro]

[ QUOTE ]
By the way, SaltCracka, I suppose you deserve an explanation.

The Red Sox are the premier, numero uno, undisputable Chokemasters in the entire world of Sports. No other professional team, in any sport anywhere in the world, even holds a candle to them in this department.

Give them a 3-0 lead in games the next time they make it to the World Series, and a healthy lead in the 4th game, and you are flipping a coin if they win the series or not. In fact the true odds would probably be against them at that point, regardless of their opposition. They have a seemingly supernatural ability to choke in the clutch, that is all, and the strength of this power sems to increase in accordance with how close they are to a grand victory.

You, Daryn, and Joe Tall will all be old and grey before the Red Sox ever win a world series again.

I know you don't believe me, but you will, eventually. Daryn and Joe Tall will learn the hard way because they are from Boston and will cling to frail hope longer than the others.

If you don't believe me, ask John Cole. He knows too. Or should I say, he KNOWS, but he just doesn't want to really admit it. Hell, what would be the fun in that?

So you guys have your fun rooting for the Sox. I've always shot straight on this forum. Twenty years from now don't say M didn't tell you how it really is, and how it always will be. And no, Daryn, I'm not joking even in the slightest. This is the cold and painful truth.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm already close to being old and gray, so I hear ya. They broke my heart in 1986 and although I'm still a fan and still root for them, I'll never allow myself to get that passionate and emotionally involved about them again.

In '86, I was just about Joe's and Daryl's age now so I can say MMMMMM speaks the truth.

[MMMMMM]

Not once you understand what you are up against.

[ThaSaltCracka]

LOL, what are you up against.

[Joe Tall]

yeah I agree, that seems awful fair-weatherly to me.

Yes, it's weak.

Go Sox,
JT

[MMMMMM]

1975 World Series

[Joe Tall]

I was just about Joe's and Daryl's age now

Not that it's that much but I do have 10 or 11 years on Daryn.

Go Sox,
JT

[MMMMMM]

I've already told you.

[ThaSaltCracka]

[censored] 2-1 now.

can the yanks get someone up in the pen already!

[Joe Tall]

yanks get someone up in the pen already!

I'm surprised they don't as El Dukie can't find the plate all of a sudden.

Go Big Poppy!
JT

[Toro]

Cmon, Salty throw us a bone at least. The Patriots were kind enough to do the same for your beloved Hawks this afternoon.

[Toro]

Start the clock. 7 minutes and counting.

[ThaSaltCracka]

[censored] [censored] [censored] [censored]!

[ThaSaltCracka]

I LOVE YOU MATSUI!!!!!!

[ThaSaltCracka]

I would have kept Lowe in too, he was pitching pretty good.

[Joe Tall]

I would have kept Lowe in too, he was pitching pretty good.

I agree and Timlin has been shakey this series.

Go Sox!
JT

[Joe Tall]

He was out and it wasn't close.

Go Sox!
JT

[ThaSaltCracka]

I think it was close, it looked like his left foot hit the bag before he was tagged. The only thing is the ump had a bad view of the play so he looked out no matter what because the throw beat him there. varitek made an excellent play there.

[ThaSaltCracka]

[ QUOTE ]
I agree and Timlin has been shakey this series.

[/ QUOTE ] I think if Lowe stayed in, he was going to give up one run, but thats it. Instead the use Timlin way to early and give up the lead.

[Joe Tall]

When you see it again, his left foot gets there in time but Bill has foot blocking the bag.

Man on, Go Sox!
Joe Tall

[ThaSaltCracka]

it was close.

This is a tight game. I am nervous.

[ThaSaltCracka]

Timlin= http://images.southparkstudios.com/img/content/characters/62a.gif

[Dynasty]

This game (and yesterday's) is tooooooooo looooooooong.

[Zeno]

Why the hell is Timlin still IN? This is nuts.

-Zeno

[Neil Stevens]

CRIPPLE FIGHT!

(sorry, I just love that line)

[daryn]

actually they brought in timlin and he got the guy to ground out within the infield grass. it was actually perfect to cut down matsui at the plate.

[Zeno]

I guess someone heard me. Last gasp for the Sox now.

-Zeno

[ThaSaltCracka]

um, okay, bringing him in was the right thing to do..... better hope foulke can pitch three innings.

[Joe Tall]

This is it.

Go Sox,
JT

[ThaSaltCracka]

Here comes the Mighty Mo!

6 outs to go....please

[ThaSaltCracka]

3 more......pretty please

[Joe Tall]

Do it. Do it.

GO SOX!
-JT

[JinX11]

Leadoff walk in the bottom half.... Here we go!

[DCIAce]

Dave Roberts is fast. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

..wish the Dodgers hadn't given him away.

[Michael Davis]

Just dragging out the torture.

[ThaSaltCracka]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKK KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

[Joe Tall]

Wo0T wo0T!!

GO SOX!
-JT

[ThaSaltCracka]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKK K

[Neil Stevens]

I was just thinking that if this is what I have to put up with in order to have a better Dodger team next year, I'll just have to live with it.

[JinX11]

Ducks on a pond - let's go Big Papi!!

[ThaSaltCracka]

He strikes out.

[Iplaydrunk]

rivera sux this inning
GO SOX

[ThaSaltCracka]

oritz sucks the whole game

[ThaSaltCracka]

[ QUOTE ]
He strikes out.

[/ QUOTE ]
fly out, close enough

I am really [censored] nervous right now

[Iplaydrunk]

Can't argue there

[Iplaydrunk]

Does anyone else completely hate Fox's coverage of basesball?
They need to stick to live poker coverage

[nolanfan34]

[ QUOTE ]
I am really [censored] nervous right now

[/ QUOTE ]

Why? If you're a real M's fan, you should be rooting against the Yanks.

OK, OK, I know that's been covered already.

I feel bad for Sox fans, because now your hopes are up again, and I can only imagine this isn't going to end well now that it's in extra innings.

[JinX11]

No kidding - Fox is so far up the Yankees' asses. They're worse than NBC and Notre Dame.

[Zeno]

The sox needed to win in the bottom of the ninth because I don't think their pitching will can hold up to extra innings.

-Zeno

[ThaSaltCracka]

I agree with you.

[sfer]

[ QUOTE ]
Just dragging out the torture.

[/ QUOTE ]

lol. It's like the spider that you toss in the toilet that struggles and struggles and struggles and then....flush.

[Iplaydrunk]

Even their football coverage sux. I don't like the camera angle they use on kickoff returns. Plus they pump the crap out of all their own shows. Last year in the ALCS, all they advertised was that show 'Skin'. IT LASTED 3 F-ING EPISODES. They had more airtime of ads for it that content of it

[JinX11]

*lol* good call - I forgot about that show.

And we can never ever forget the FOX's glowing puck for NHL coverage. The occasional 'meteor shower' was neat....

[JinX11]

Alrighty then...let's go win it.

[Joe Tall]

Do it. Do it.

GO SOX!!
-JT

[ThaSaltCracka]

Jeter is such a gamer

[The Dude]

Jeter sucks balls.

[andyfox]

I don't know. Gordon hasn't looked good at all in the post-season.

Yankee pitchers gave up too many walks tonight. The lead-off walks in the 5th for El Duque, and the lead-off walk in the 9th for Rivera were crucial.

[ThaSaltCracka]

hey andy,
Gordon's breaking ball looks good thus far, much better than in games 1 and 2.

[andyfox]

"The longer this game goes, the more it favors the Yankees."

Apparently because the Sox are weak in the pen. And who, exactly, do the Yankees have after Gordon? Esteban Loaiza? If he comes in, game over.

[ThaSaltCracka]

I don't the sox have anyone down there that didn't pitch last night.

[nolanfan34]

[ QUOTE ]
"The longer this game goes, the more it favors the Yankees."

Apparently because the Sox are weak in the pen. And who, exactly, do the Yankees have after Gordon? Esteban Loaiza? If he comes in, game over.

[/ QUOTE ]

We're onto your "talk bad about the Yanks, reverse jinx" strategy. They're good, just admit it. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[andyfox]

Yes, he looked good in the 10th.

Jeter's hitting very poorly, jumping at the ball. His ground out with the bases loaded against Timlin was big.

[ThaSaltCracka]

all I know is that there are four right handed hitters coming up to hit against a left handed pitcher

[andyfox]

Yes, but didn't play a great game tonight. Yet. My guess is Jeter bunts now with Cario on base.

[ThaSaltCracka]

they better take embree out or else this game is over.

[JinX11]

Ok...would you now mind predicting a Sox walkoff homer to win it in the bottom half??

Please, thank you.

[nolanfan34]

[ QUOTE ]
they better take embree out or else this game is over.

[/ QUOTE ]

Agreed.

Good god it's late on the East Coast. Another reason the West Coast is the best... /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[mikeyvegas]

now that how you bunt! Why the hell is embry still pitching??

[daryn]

yeah i'd really enjoy waking up at 10am on a sunday to watch my patriots. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[ThaSaltCracka]

fo shizzle nolanfanizzle, haha the left coast is the best coast.

[Dynasty]

Nice catch.

[Iplaydrunk]

Damn, no new posts for 15 whole second

[ThaSaltCracka]

it was.

[ThaSaltCracka]

Godzilla will destroy Boston!
http://webhome.idirect.com/~jinsaku/Godzilla.jpg

[mikeyvegas]

Mike Myers is terrible, and when i say bad i mean Elmer Dessens bad. I saw enough of these clowns here in AZ. I smell rbi basehit.

[The Dude]

[ QUOTE ]
yeah i'd really enjoy waking up at 10am on a sunday to watch my patriots.:p

[/ QUOTE ]
Now add to the mix that you happen to be in Vegas this weekend, sitting in one of the softest 20-40 games ever. Oh yeah, it's Sunday, so you've already burned up all your "stored sleep."

I finally called it quits at about 3am. This morning sucked.

[JinX11]

http://www.halloweenmovies.com/site/fanpics/5-30-10.jpg With a little help from Mike Myers....

[ThaSaltCracka]

good work Mike
http://www.darkholmekeep.net/aboutme/mike2.JPG

[craig r]

is arroyo eligible to pitch tonight?

craig

[ThaSaltCracka]

yeah he is I believe, but why would he?

[JinX11]

11 is my lucky number...here we go!

[Iplaydrunk]

Wakefield warming up
What a workhorse

[Joe Tall]

Do it. Do it.

GO RED SOX!
-JT

[craig r]

he was bad last night, but he has been more reliable than wakefield this season. plus, wakefield threw a lot more pitches last night.

craig

[mikeyvegas]

Jesus, that was fortunate. Maybe someone should let Curtis Leskanic 0-0 sliders aren't supposed to be middle of plate, belt high. Got lucky getting out of that jam.

[ThaSaltCracka]

damn....long game.

[mikeyvegas]

Yeah, can't imagine watching this game on the east coast and having to go to work tomorrow.

[ThaSaltCracka]

no kidding man...

[ThaSaltCracka]

Yourrrrrrr great

http://home.earthlink.net/~theseeker3/pics/tonytigr.jpg

[andyfox]

It's ridiculous to be playing at 1 AM, isn't it? I know they want to make sure the first game's over by the time the second one starts, but still.

OK, 2 outs. Damon might be able to get ahold of one.

[ThaSaltCracka]

stop it andy

[mikeyvegas]

Orlando Cabrera is now 0-2 in "joining boston red sox infamy". Got to love watching pro-athletes choke.

[andyfox]

They should pinch run for Posada. I can outrun him.

[andyfox]

Especially now with Posada on second, they should run for him. But I guess if they do, they lose the pinch-runner (Enrique Wilson), and then need to put in Flaherty to catch.

[mikeyvegas]

That 1-1 pitch was a gift. Merry Christmas.

[craig r]

yeah, boston has gotten all the calls.

craig

[Toro]

Still waiting for that horrible Yankee pitching Andy.

[andyfox]

Maybe it's just me, but I run for Posada and I pinch-hit Lofton for Cairo there.

[ThaSaltCracka]

they got that call, I think that was his point.

[Joe Tall]

Do it. Do it.

GO SOX!
-JT

[Iplaydrunk]

Can't..............keep...............eyes........ ........open

[mikeyvegas]

[ QUOTE ]
yeah, boston has gotten all the calls.

craig

[/ QUOTE ]

I wouldn't say that(if indeed that isn't sarcasim). Boston just got bailed out there.

On a side note, it must be freezing out there...

[Toro]

Joe are you calling a shot for Ramirez?

[mikeyvegas]

[ QUOTE ]
Maybe it's just me, but I run for Posada and I pinch-hit Lofton for Cairo there.

[/ QUOTE ]

That sounds like a good plan. I don't think torre wanted to take that chance and lose posada for the night though.

[Dynasty]

[ QUOTE ]
Do it. Do it.

GO SOX!
-JT

[/ QUOTE ]

Eventually, this will work.

[ThaSaltCracka]

dude, where the hell are these pitches.

[mikeyvegas]

Game over!

[Iplaydrunk]

Yhank you Ortiz

[JinX11]

See ya tomorrow!!!!!!!!!

[The Dude]

OH BABY!!!!!!!!!

[craig r]

i was being sarcastic.

craig

[mikeyvegas]

[ QUOTE ]
There will not be a Sweep.

Go Sox,
Joe Tall

[/ QUOTE ]

I concur. Great game!

[andyfox]

Anyway, after last night's travesty, this was better baseball tonight.

BTW, you notice Sheffield won't jump for any balls. And judging by the way he catches ordinary fly balls off to the right, I imagine he can't lift his arm up too high above his shoulder.

[Joe Tall]

Eventually, this will work.

Well, you want to know something strange...I tried to post the same, "Do it. Do it. GO SOX! -JT", everytime. Yet, the 2+2 server must have something that keeps track of the post's content because when I first tried to repeat it, the server gave me, "this post already exsist." So, I added a '!!' to the SOX the first time, a 'RED' the next and then, finally, I left a 'space' out between the 'Do it. Do it.' and it worked.

GO SOX!
-JT

[Joe Tall]

kill this thread with a,

"There will not be a Sweep."

Stick that in yer Salt, Cracka.

GO SOX!
-JT

[andyfox]

Why not? He had already caught 11 innings. Torre hadn't made one line-up or position change all night.

[andyfox]

Yeah, no question their starting pitching has been better than expected in the post-season.

[Lazymeatball]

[ QUOTE ]
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[/ QUOTE ]

[John Cole]

M,

I know. And I have admittted such many times. BTW, I don't care if they win the World Series, I just like to see them get to the final game. Sure beats a Marlins/Yankees series.

[ThaSaltCracka]

[ QUOTE ]
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[/ QUOTE ]

Congrats Meat, that will be the only victory you get this post season.

[mikeyvegas]

[ QUOTE ]
Congrats Meat, that will be the only victory you get this post season.

[/ QUOTE ]

???

[MMMMMM]

I don't see anything wrong with rooting for the Red Sox or with being a fan, lest Daryn and Joe misunderstand me. It can be exciting indeed to see them in the playoffs or the Series.

It's just that no matter how hard you try, you can't shake off the feeling that you already know how this movie is going to turn out. And while it may be surprising just how they manage to do it, they will manage to do it, someway, somehow. That's the part younger fans haven't had time to get yet.

[daryn]

seriously, if you believe your own words, you have mental problems. there is no curse.

if they lose this year, they lose. if they make it to the world series in 10 years and lose, oh well they lose.

[andyfox]

There may be a sweep yet, if we define it as winning four games in a row. In fact, there may be one in each series.

[John Cole]

Andy,

You should have known better than to post this. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[banditbdl]

[ QUOTE ]
if they lose this year, they lose. if they make it to the world series in 10 years and lose, oh well they lose.


[/ QUOTE ]

Spoken like a true physics major...

[The Curse of ARod]

I have a hangover.