The 10 Spot

[Desdia72]

is it me or was the hand doomed for failure?

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PokerStars Game #774872998: Tournament #3042769, Hold'em No Limit - Level II
(15/30) - 2004/10/16 - 13:27:13 (ET)
Table '3042769 1' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: 1foxylady (2310 in chips)
Seat 2: Low Life Bum (245 in chips)
Seat 3: anasob (1550 in chips)
Seat 4: 8b47 (1165 in chips)
Seat 5: RunkRo (2930 in chips)
Seat 6: lawman43bmf (1410 in chips)
Seat 7: ReighnStorm (1720 in chips)
Seat 8: Mizery (970 in chips)
Seat 9: froot (1200 in chips)
lawman43bmf: posts small blind 15
ReighnStorm: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ReighnStorm [Js Qh]
Mizery: folds
froot: folds
1foxylady: folds
Low Life Bum: calls 30
anasob: calls 30
8b47: folds
RunkRo: folds
lawman43bmf: calls 15
ReighnStorm: checks
*** FLOP *** [Qc Ts Jd]
lawman43bmf: checks
ReighnStorm: checks
Low Life Bum: checks
anasob: bets 120
lawman43bmf: calls 120
ReighnStorm: raises 570 to 690
Low Life Bum: folds
anasob: calls 570
lawman43bmf: folds
*** TURN *** [Qc Ts Jd] [4s]
ReighnStorm: bets 540
anasob: raises 290 to 830 and is all-in
ReighnStorm: calls 290
*** RIVER *** [Qc Ts Jd 4s] [As]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ReighnStorm: shows [Js Qh] (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
anasob: shows [Th Kd] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
anasob collected 3280 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3280 | Rake 0
Board [Qc Ts Jd 4s As]
Seat 1: 1foxylady folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Low Life Bum folded on the Flop
Seat 3: anasob showed [Th Kd] and won (3280) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 4: 8b47 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: RunkRo (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: lawman43bmf (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: ReighnStorm (big blind) showed [Js Qh] and lost with two pair, Queens
and Jacks
Seat 8: Mizery folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: froot folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[durron597]

The only thing I do differently is straight-up move in on the turn. At your level SnG it's possible the guy thought he had folding equity....

P.S. Stop posting bad beat stories.

[lorinda]

I play the flop the same as you maybe 85% of the time.

If I think I have utterly terrible calling station opponents, I will occasionally wait for the turn and hope a blank falls so they can draw to one card instead of two, however that would still have you doomed in this instance anyway, and it's a play that should only be used in extreme circumstances.

Lori

[Desdia72]

[ QUOTE ]
The only thing I do differently is straight-up move in on the turn. At your level SnG it's possible the guy thought he had folding equity....

P.S. Stop posting bad beat stories.

[/ QUOTE ]

do you really think this guy thought he had folding equity? he probably does'nt know what it means...i myself am still trying to understand the definition. maybe he was looking at a pair of Tens and if he's beat, he also has a straight draw too.

[lorinda]

do you really think this guy thought he had folding equity?

Try not to second guess yourself too much.

Many of these people just see their cards and play them if they think they can make a big hand, or if they have a big hand and fold them otherwise.

Of course, a big hand is often defined differently by them as it is to most of us.

Lori

[Desdia72]

[ QUOTE ]
do you really think this guy thought he had folding equity?

Try not to second guess yourself too much.

Many of these people just see their cards and play them if they think they can make a big hand, or if they have a big hand and fold them otherwise.

Of course, a big hand is often defined differently by them as it is to most of us.

Lori

[/ QUOTE ]

no, i mean durron stated the guy may have thought he had folding equity. i'm thinking, "me got 10s and me got King, looks good to me, i call you".

[durron597]

He probably "didn't think he had fold equity", he thought "well, if I move in on him he might fold."

Don't get tricky and value bet 2/3 of your stack.

And the important point of my post was that I would appreciate you not posting bad beat stories anymore; it seems like every post of yours is "I got bad beated... was there anything I could do?" Read AleoMagus's recent post (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=singletable&Number=1130806 &page=3&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=14&fpart=all) on the subject.

[Desdia72]

i think this is the very next hand or the one after. hell, i knew damn near everybody wanted a piece of this one, hence "The 10 Spot". /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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PokerStars Game #774878393: Tournament #3042769, Hold'em No Limit - Level II
(15/30) - 2004/10/16 - 13:29:59 (ET)
Table '3042769 1' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: 1foxylady (2310 in chips)
Seat 2: Low Life Bum (660 in chips)
Seat 3: anasob (3065 in chips)
Seat 4: 8b47 (1165 in chips)
Seat 5: RunkRo (2930 in chips)
Seat 6: lawman43bmf (1260 in chips)
Seat 7: ReighnStorm (155 in chips)
Seat 8: Mizery (755 in chips)
Seat 9: froot (1200 in chips)
Mizery: posts small blind 15
froot: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ReighnStorm [9s 9d]
1foxylady: calls 30
Low Life Bum: folds
anasob: calls 30
8b47: folds
RunkRo: folds
lawman43bmf: folds
ReighnStorm: raises 125 to 155 and is all-in
Mizery: calls 140
froot: folds
1foxylady: calls 125
anasob: calls 125
*** FLOP *** [Ac 6h 7h]
Mizery: checks
1foxylady: checks
anasob: bets 90
Mizery: raises 510 to 600 and is all-in
1foxylady: folds
anasob: folds
*** TURN *** [Ac 6h 7h] [Kc]
*** RIVER *** [Ac 6h 7h Kc] [7d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Mizery: shows [7c 7s] (four of a kind, Sevens)
froot said, "nh"
Mizery collected 180 from side pot
ReighnStorm: shows [9s 9d] (two pair, Nines and Sevens)
Mizery said, "TY"
Mizery collected 650 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 830 Main pot 650. Side pot 180. | Rake 0
Board [Ac 6h 7h Kc 7d]
Seat 1: 1foxylady folded on the Flop
Seat 2: Low Life Bum folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: anasob folded on the Flop
Seat 4: 8b47 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: RunkRo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: lawman43bmf folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: ReighnStorm (button) showed [9s 9d] and lost with two pair, Nines and
Sevens
Seat 8: Mizery (small blind) showed [7c 7s] and won (830) with four of a kind,
Sevens
Seat 9: froot (big blind) folded before Flop

[Desdia72]

[ QUOTE ]
He probably "didn't think he had fold equity", he thought "well, if I move in on him he might fold."

Don't get tricky and value bet 2/3 of your stack.

And the important point of my post was that I would appreciate you not posting bad beat stories anymore; it seems like every post of yours is "I got bad beated... was there anything I could do?" Read AleoMagus's recent post (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=singletable&Number=1130806 &page=3&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=14&fpart=all) on the subject.

[/ QUOTE ]

who cares about Aleo's thread? you point to it as if it's his thread will spark some type of revelation or something. nobody asked you to appreciate them.