Bet size

I am relatively new to no limit holdem


If I flop the top two pairs or a set and there is a possibility that someone has 4 to a flush on the flop then what is the minimum bet (in comparison) to the pot to give another player incorrect odds to chase in cases of

on the flop with 3 players total?

on the turn with 3 players total?

on the flop heads up?

on the turn heads up?


Thanks in advance

It's not as easy as just giving a number.


The four-flusher should ALWAYS call if you or the other player will pay him off greatly if he makes his flush (like with your full house draw).


If neither you nor the other guy will pay him off if he makes his flush, he should only call if the immediate pot odds dictate so. That's easy to figure.


But, if you go all in with a large stack (relative to the pot) on turn or flop, he should never call because you're offering him EVEN money on a worse than even money situation with NO implied odds for him.


If you push-in with a small stack relative to the pot, so that he's getting 3-1 or so, he should call on the flop, but fold on the turn. If you push in so that he's getting better than 4-1, he should call flop or turn.


Him calling on the flop matters much less on what you bet than what he can expect future action to be like (will you bet again on turn? WIll you pay him off? etc. etc.).