Red Sox - Yankees Game #1 Thread

[Clarkmeister]

Let it begin. Despite what many of you may think, I'm actually rooting for the Red Sox. I just want it to go a gruelling 7 games so that Schilling is tired for the World Series, god willing, against the Cardinals. Plus, as a fan, whoever wins, I hope it's 7 games. This rivalry deserves 7 games.

[Dynasty]

We will win. The Force is with us.

As for Scilling, he's pitching Ganes 1 and 5. So, unless he pitches relief in a Game 7, he'll be ready to go in Game 1 of the World Series.

[Clarkmeister]

Depending on how things go, I wouldn't be shocked to see him go 1-4-7. He may well not, but it's certainly in the realm.

[nolanfan34]

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As for Scilling, he's pitching Ganes 1 and 5. So, unless he pitches relief in a Game 7, he'll be ready to go in Game 1 of the World Series.

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If Boston gets down 2-1, I would be shocked to not see Schilling in game 4. I don't think they'll get down 2-1 though, so it's probably a moot point.

Can't wait for the game to start, and like Clarkmeister, I'm also hoping it's a 7 game series that results in a tired team meeting the Cards in the World Series!

[Dynasty]

Schilling set to head up four-man rotation (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2004/10/11/schilling_set_to_head_up_four_man_rotation/)

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Schilling started Games 1, 4, and 7 of the '01 World Series, going on three days' rest in Games 4 and 7. But the Sox have no intention of pitching him on short rest, which means he would go again in Game 5, if necessary. Martinez is lined up for Games 2 and 6, if necessary, with Arroyo set up for Games 3 and 7, if it comes to that.

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[Dynasty]

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If Boston gets down 2-1, I would be shocked to not see Schilling in game 4.

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The Sox aren't going to panic simply because they fall behind 2-1. The Sox have a very good #4 pitcher with Wakefield. It's not worth starting Schilling twice on short rest at the expense of Wakefield not starting at all.

A rested Schilling and a rested Wakefield is better than two tired Schillings.

[Clarkmeister]

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If Boston gets down 2-1, I would be shocked to not see Schilling in game 4.

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The Sox aren't going to panic simply because the fall behind 2-1.

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So did Houston and Minnesota panic in the Divisional Series?

[Dynasty]

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If Boston gets down 2-1, I would be shocked to not see Schilling in game 4.

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The Sox aren't going to panic simply because the fall behind 2-1.

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So did Houston and Minnesota panic in the Divisional Series?

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They didn't have the pitching depth Boston has. Boston not only has Wakefield as their #4 pitcher, they also have Derek Lowe not starting at all.

The decision has been made and publicly announced.

[lastchance]

Schilling is a Yankee-killer. Ari dominated NY the WS 3 years back, and Schilling was a big reason why. They should go 1, 4, 7. The Yankees have destroyed the Sox somehow, and Schilling seems invincible to Yankee mystique.

However, it is true that this is not the WS. (yeah, that's right, there's a NL too) So, you probably want Schilling all rested to face either the Cardinals or the Astros.

[Zeno]

I'm rooting for the Redsox. And being the ulimate skeptic, I have no beliefs in curses or other such prattle and drivel. So the Redsox are going to win and face the Mighty Cardinals in the WS.

Batter UP!! /images/graemlins/cool.gif

-Zeno

[Clarkmeister]

Well, the reason I ask is because I think they did panic, especially Houston, as they had the option of bringing Clemens back in game 5 anyways, and if they had won game 4 without him, their rotation would have been set for the LCS. Minnesota had announced that they were going to pitch Santana on 3 days regardless of the outcome of game 3, which I also consider panicking.

"The decision has been made and publicly announced. "

Wouldn't be the first time that a team changed plans. Again, I'm not saying I think they will, I just think it's a possibility that can't be ruled out yet.

[Non_Comformist]

I am going to pick The Yankees in 6, I think the win game 1, 2, 4, & 6.

Schilling is awesome no doubt but this Yankee line up is not the same he faced with the Arizona.

[nolanfan34]

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"The decision has been made and publicly announced. "

Wouldn't be the first time that a team changed plans. Again, I'm not saying I think they will, I just think it's a possibility that can't be ruled out yet.

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This is what I'm saying too. The Mariners gave Bob Melvin an extension and endorsement as manager during the season, look what that got him.

I don't disagree that the Sox plan includes Wakefield in game 4. I just think it will be interesting to see if they stick to that plan.

I'm more interested in what the Astros will do in game 2.

[chio]

the key to the yankees losing will be their starting rotation and relief breaking down. you heard it here first.

[Neil Stevens]

First blood!

That's right, keep that crowd into it!

Oh, now it's 2-0! Woohoo!

[Clarkmeister]

Man, just in case the Red Sox needed to be reminded that these are the Yankees and it's the postseason............

[Non_Comformist]

Mussia looks sharp and I wonder if Schilling is having problems pushing off?

Great first inning!

[Non_Comformist]

Mussina rolling,

I am yet again reminded that the bottom of The Yankee line up is significantly weaker than the redsoxs

[Non_Comformist]

3 run double by Matsui and the Yankees up 5-0!

[Clarkmeister]

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these are the Yankees and it's the postseason............

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......and they are playing the Red Sox.

[The Dude]

shit.

[Clarkmeister]

You knew it was coming, but you can hear the Yankee fans chanting "Who's your dad-dy" clap-clap-clapclapclap.

[Non_Comformist]

I would expect it to be deafing during game 2.

[Non_Comformist]

Not much more to say. 6-0 and Schilling probably headed to the showers. Mussina still perfect.

I don't think it could go any better.

[Losing all]

I'm gonna hurl, what a fuggin route.

[nolanfan34]

So far this thread is without input from Red Sox fans...I hope someone took all of their sharp objects away. I'll make the same prediction I did after two innings of the Atlanta/Houston series, this one is over already, the Yankees just have Boston's number in the post season.

I'll let the reader decide if my prediction is a good thing or not, based on the results of my last one. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Clarkmeister]

Time to pull Schilling before his pitch count gets higher so you can pitch him in games 4 and 7.

[Zeno]

Mussina does look good. His curve is working well. Just pull Shilling and save him, he has only 55 or so pitches. Hand it over to the bull pen. It will be about impossible to overcome a 6 run defict against Mussina as good as he is pitching anyway.

-Zeno

[Zeno]

We hit that one about the same time clark.

-Zeno

[Non_Comformist]

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Time to pull Schilling before his pitch count gets higher so you can pitch him in games 4 and 7.

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I agree, I would not want to risk further damage to his ankle. Boston has no chanve without him at 100%

[Dynasty]

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Time to pull Schilling before his pitch count gets higher so you can pitch him in games 4 and 7.

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Is there something in Schilling's performance tonight which suggests the Red Sox would want him to start two more games?

[Zeno]

The Yankees seemed to know what pitch was coming.

-Zeno

[Losing all]

Leskanic? What a joke! What's he saving Lowe for? spring training...

[Losing all]

A bad one.

[Non_Comformist]

Yankees should have added a run though.

The ump may be from NY.

[SnakeRat]

Anybody else see "Scooter" the talking baseball explain that a sweeping curveball: "sweeps and curves?"

[Non_Comformist]

If this is over which it appears to be. How important does game 2 with Pero become?

[Dynasty]

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If this is over which it appears to be. How important does game 2 with Pero become?

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The next game is always the most important game of the series. But, it's never as important as people make it out to be in advance.

[Losing all]

Must win. If they start 0-2 with pedro/schill, c'mon, stick a fork in em

[Non_Comformist]

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If this is over which it appears to be. How important does game 2 with Pero become?

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The next game is always the most important game of the series. But, it's never as important as people make it out to be in advance.

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I disagree I think having both of their fabled 1-2 go down would be devasting to Boston.

[Clarkmeister]

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Time to pull Schilling before his pitch count gets higher so you can pitch him in games 4 and 7.

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Is there something in Schilling's performance tonight which suggests the Red Sox would want him to start two more games?

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Using that logic, they wouldn't start him again at all. Obviously though, they would.

[Dynasty]

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Must win. If they start 0-2 with pedro/schill, c'mon, stick a fork in em

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This type of analysis is ridiculously over-simplified. There have been an uncountable number of more impressive comebacks than that. It's as if sports fans forget about yesterday's game as soon as today's start.

[Non_Comformist]

Loften doing the "lean back" in the dug out.

[Losing all]

I didn't mean impossible, just very unlikely. "stick a fork in em" might be over-simplified. How about "going 4-1 or better after your 2 best pitchers have just lost isn't probable"?

[Dynasty]

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I didn't mean impossible, just very unlikely. "stick a fork in em" might be over-simplified. How about "going 4-1 or better after your 2 best pitchers have just lost isn't probable"?

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That type of arguement can be countered with the equally flawed "All the Red Sox have to do is win their home games and then steal one in New York."

[Neil Stevens]

The Red Sox are like the hapless citizens of Tokyo in a Godzilla movie. The monster is destroying them.

[Losing all]

I'd say that's a lot more flawed. Do you think it's not a big deal going down 2-zip?

[Non_Comformist]

This game just became much less enjoyablr.

But still Yankees 8 Redsox 0, game 1

Bring on Pedro

[Boris]

Moose loses the no hitter. He's been masterful all night long against a powerful res sox line-up. First thing the friggin announcer does is second guess the pitch thrown by Mussina. what an a s s.

[Clarkmeister]

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Bring on Pedro

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You'll get him. I don't know if you really want him though. I'd expect him to be very tough.

I do wonder if Kurn still think's that Boston will win the series and "it's not close". /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[Non_Comformist]

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This game just became much less enjoyable.

But still Yankees 8 Redsox 0, game 1

Bring on Pedro

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I caused this right?

[Losing all]

Good bye 3 hitter, and good bye Moose.

[Non_Comformist]

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Bring on Pedro

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You'll get him. I don't know if you really want him though. I'd expect him to be very tough.



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It's hard to have anything but respect for Pedro regardless of which uniform you cheer for.

[ArchAngel71857]

This game just became much less enjoyablr

1. The game is plenty enjoyablr, because Mussina had a perfect game going.

2. It is now 8-3. Still worth watching.

-AA

8-5

[Clarkmeister]

"This game just became much less enjoyable"

I'd say it just became much *more* enjoyable.

[Non_Comformist]

can't......breath

[Losing all]

Game on. Maybe tomorrow wont be a must win afterall.

[Dynasty]

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Game on. Maybe tomorrow wont be a must win afterall.

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You're coming around. People overreact to being down whether it's 2 games to 0 in a series or if it's 8 runs to 0 in an individual game.

[Clarkmeister]

"People overreact to being down whether it's 2 games to 0 in a series or if it's 8 runs to 0 in an individual game. "

Tough to overreact to that. I'd guess that being dow 8 runs at any point in a MLB playoff game is something that historically is dang near a 100% loser.

I agree re:2-0 though, especially in baseball.

[Clarkmeister]

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"People overreact to being down whether it's 2 games to 0 in a series or if it's 8 runs to 0 in an individual game. "

Tough to overreact to that. I'd guess that being dow 8 runs at any point in a MLB playoff game is something that historically is dang near a 100% loser.

I agree re:2-0 though, especially in baseball.

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They just showed a graphic. Teams down 8 runs at any point in a game have come from behind only once ever in the playoffs.

[Dynasty]

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"People overreact to being down whether it's 2 games to 0 in a series or if it's 8 runs to 0 in an individual game. "

Tough to overreact to that. I'd guess that being dow 8 runs at any point in a MLB playoff game is something that historically is dang near a 100% loser.

I agree re:2-0 though, especially in baseball.

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They just showed a graphic. Teams down 8 runs at any point in a game have come from behind only once ever in the playoffs.

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The Red Sox aren't down by 8. They're down by 3. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

You got a graphic for that?

[Clarkmeister]

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The Red Sox aren't down by 8. They're down by 3. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

You got a graphic for that?

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Nope, though I'd bet that the suddenly scarce and normally very vocal die hard 2+2 Red Sox fans would suddenly come out of the woodwork though!

[nolanfan34]

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The Red Sox aren't down by 8. They're down by 3. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

You got a graphic for that?

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Nope, though I'd bet that the suddenly scarce and normally very vocal die hard 2+2 Red Sox fans would suddenly come out of the woodwork though!

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That's the eerie part of the thread. I'm sure they're all out enjoying the game with friends...but to not hear from any of them in this thread? Even Saltcracka is quiet.

[Clarkmeister]

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The Red Sox aren't down by 8. They're down by 3. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

You got a graphic for that?

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Nope, though I'd bet that the suddenly scarce and normally very vocal die hard 2+2 Red Sox fans would suddenly come out of the woodwork though!

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That's the eerie part of the thread. I'm sure they're all out enjoying the game with friends...but to not hear from any of them in this thread? Even Saltcracka is quiet.

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The Yankee fans are quiet now too. haha, this is fun.

[Losing all]

unreal

[Clarkmeister]

That's the second terrible play by Matsui tonight. Could well be the difference in the game when it's all said and done.

[Dynasty]

It was a tough play but Matsui should have caught that ball. He made it to the wall in time and the ball actually hit his glove. It appeared that Matsui slightly overran the ball.

[Non_Comformist]

There is zero chance that I would be able to handle seven games of this physically, emotionally or mentally.

I feel like this is my fault as the timing to my "goodbye excitment" post is eerie at the very least.

[mikech]

How lucky are the Yankees? All the frickin' time, it's sick. That's a 3-run homer in nearly every other park. Please let Rivera uncork a wild pitch.

[Clarkmeister]

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It was a tough play but Matsui should have caught that ball. He made it to the wall in time and the ball actually hit his glove. It appeared that Matsui slightly overran the ball.

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Ni han. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[CrazyEyez]

*bump*

This is to make up for my excel gaffe, Dynasty. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Losing all]

maybe, but Boston got a little lucky themselves there as the ball bounced right out of the sweet spot of Matsui's glove. His glove might not have a sweet spot though.

[lastchance]

Wait a minute. Are the Red Sox coming back on the Yankees? WTF is going on here?!

[CrazyEyez]

the ball bounced right out of the sweet spot of Matsui's glove. His glove might not have a sweet spot though.

If it does have a sweet spot, the ball was drawn away from it by the gravitational pull from his head.

[nolanfan34]

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the ball bounced right out of the sweet spot of Matsui's glove. His glove might not have a sweet spot though.

If it does have a sweet spot, the ball was drawn away from it by the gravitational pull from his head.

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Post of the thread. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Neil Stevens]

No, they're not coming back, they're just torturing their fans. Assuming Rivera will do his usual thing, that is...

[Dr Wogga]

...drive in 5, let up 4? Still, in the clutch, he's one hell of a professional hitter. Plus, he owns the Sox. Who'd a thunk Mariano would be in the game?

[Losing all]

More like torturing the Yankee fans. The world -Dynasty already put this one in the books.

[Clarkmeister]

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More like torturing the Yankee fans. The world -Dynasty already put this one in the books.

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It's in the books alright.

[Neil Stevens]

One more hit and it won't even be a save situation for Mariano.

[mikech]

Oh well, that should do it...

[Dr Wogga]

....Ha!!!

[Nepa]

Yes! 10 - 7 I can goto sleep soon!

[Non_Comformist]

Bernie once again comes through when we need him most!

Left Feild has decided this game in many ways.

[Dr Wogga]

...may be the worst played left field by both teams in the history of the sport. Not since Yogi, Ellie Howard, Johnny Blanchard, and Hector Lopez roamed left have we seen such pathetic LF "D"

[Dr Wogga]

...but I ain't counting on it /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Losing all]

Sure, now he calls on Foulke. Screw post season closer roles, that's weak managing IMO

[Zeno]

Timlin falters, and Manny played it bad.
10-7 and the Sox have only 3 more outs.

[Clarkmeister]

Ended up being a very intriguing game. Man, playoff baseball is intense.

[Zeno]

Down to the wire. Too Bad for the Sox.

Hope Game 2 is 'better'.

-Zeno

[Non_Comformist]

#1.It's obvious this is going to be a war

#2. Schilling's condition has to be the biggest issue coming out of game 1

#3 How can anyone not love Mariano Rivera?

[Nepa]

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Ended up being a very intriguing game. Man, playoff baseball is intense.

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Yea, I was going to turn it off and goto sleep. Another Yankees Boston Classic.

Is Andy still alive?

[lastchance]

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#3 How can anyone not love Mariano Rivera?

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Especially when he threw that cut fastball to center field in the 9th inning of Game 7 in the 2001 World Series to allow the D-Backs to come back with only 3 outs left.

[andyfox]

Hard to say who played worse in left field, Manny or Matsui. Matsui drove in five, and gave up seven.

Schilling had "heart," but no fastball.

Francona needs to bring in Foulke to begin the 9th, not after the Yankees have scored 2 runs.

I had a particularly bad day today that I thought was going to end up even worse. Phew! If the old ticker only has so many beats in it, I lost a few days worth tonight.

[ThaSaltCracka]

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That's the eerie part of the thread. I'm sure they're all out enjoying the game with friends...but to not hear from any of them in this thread? Even Saltcracka is quiet.

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I was at the bar watching the game. Wow, what a game. I was incredibly happy and confident, but then nervous and anxious. What a good game though, post season baseball is awesome, especially when the Red Sox lose! Haha, start crying sox fans, once Pedro loses tomorrow it will be like pocket aces losing to two kings!!!! Hahahahahahahahahahahahah /images/graemlins/laugh.gif /images/graemlins/cool.gif /images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[andyfox]

. . . that they didn't have last year.

I say: heart and fourteen hits.

[Clarkmeister]

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. . . that they didn't have last year.

I say: heart and fourteen hits.

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Heart that they didn't have last year? He did see them come back from down 4-0 in game 7 vs the Sox, right? What's he smokin?

[ThaSaltCracka]

how did Matsui give up 7? That was not an easy play out there. Manny's misplay in the 1st was terrible. You only take that line if you are diving at the ball, instead Manny takes a bad line and tries to play the bounce from the worst possible location. I knew Manny's D was going to be a liability.

[andyfox]

He catches the ball in the 7th the Sox don't get five. He catches the ball in the 8th, they don't get two.

[ThaSaltCracka]

refresh my memory because I have been drinking, what play in the 8th?

[andyfox]

That's what I mean when I think people mistake hitting for intensity or heart. He remembers they lost the last three games of the World Series because they didn't hit.

They definitely have a better offense right now with, in essence, Sheffield and A-Rod having replaced Giambi and Soriano, who were both slumping badly in the post-season last year.

[andyfox]

Ortiz's 2-out drive to the wall. It hit off of Matsui's glove.

[Non_Comformist]

What I don't understand is why you wouldn't play Loften in the field and DH either Sheff or Matsui?

[ThaSaltCracka]

yeah that was a hard play IMO, not sure what play you are talking about in the 7th then, lol.

[andyfox]

Lofton has become less than reliable in the outfield. Matsui apparently was regarded highly as a fielder in Japan (where he played center field). He's just adequate.

[andyfox]

Didn't he have one go off his glove in the 7th too?

What the hell, who cares, game over. Next case. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[JTG51]

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He catches the ball in the 7th the Sox don't get five.

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But that wasn't a bad play, it was just Matsui not being quite fast enough. It would have taken a great, great play to make the catch.

I agree on the play in the 8th though. He should have caught that ball.

[ThaSaltCracka]

haha totally!!!!!!!


BTW, I think Matsui is a good OF with above average range, but an average arm. He certainly is better defensively than Sheffield.

Wow, what a game!

[ThaSaltCracka]

Matsui had no ball go off his glove in the 7th and I don't think that was an easy play in the 8th. Maybe he should have caught it, but if he had, it would have been an impressive play IMO. Cairo should learn how to pull the ball out of his glove cleanly.

Schilling was silent and less confident after the game, hahaha.

[daryn]

by the way any yankees fan not from new york is a grade A tool. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

at least the guys from new york have an excuse.


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Schilling was silent and less confident after the game, hahaha.

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he didn't sound silent to me. sounded like he actually took the blame for the loss and came clean with honest answers to questions.

[ThaSaltCracka]

you are a sore loser daryn, to bad your boy Schilling was beaten like a red headed step child.

[daryn]

do i really sound like a sore loser? yeah, it stinks when your team loses. we'll get 'em tomorrow (today).

yeah schilling wasn't schilling. clearly his ankle was a big factor. he even said himself that if he doesn't have faith in himself to pitch better than he did in game 1, he won't appear for the rest of the series.

[ThaSaltCracka]

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he even said himself that if he doesn't have faith in himself to pitch better than he did in game 1, he won't appear for the rest of the series.

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are you serious???

[daryn]

yes i'm serious. that is what he said. do you guys get the post-game interviews?

it's his ankle man, he's injured. he said the team is more important and he doesn't want to let them down by under-performing.

[ThaSaltCracka]

no. Wow.... this has to be a big blow to the sox, I didn't hear this.

[Toro]

Just got back from the Green Mountains of Vermont.


How bout them Celtics!!

[ThaSaltCracka]

haha, go GP! Hope he doesn't ruin that team of talented underachievers.

[chio]

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the key to the yankees losing will be their starting rotation and relief breaking down. you heard it here first.

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YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST