Your insights on these hands Part III [Archive]

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kleraudio

10-12-2004, 04:21 PM

hello everyone, thanks again in advance for the help, this is the last part and i wont bore you anymore /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Hand #1:
was this a correct call? UTG is a rock, this i knew but blinds were huge and are stacks were close, was call correct or should i have folded?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Button (t1020)
Hero (t1450)
BB (t2410)
UTG (t1730)
MP (t1390)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG raises to t1730 (All-In), MP folds, Button folds, Hero calls t1300 (All-In), BB folds.

Flop: (t3480) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t3480) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t3480) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: t3480

Hand #2
different tourney. my read on this opponent was loose aggressive, would you have made this call?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Button (t435)
SB (t1200)
BB (t1030)
UTG (t685)
UTG+1 (t1370)
MP1 (t1105)
Hero (t845)
MP3 (t490)
CO (t840)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls t50, Hero calls t50, MP3 raises to t490 (All-In), CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, MP1 folds, Hero calls t440.

Flop: (t1105) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t1105) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t1105) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t1105

thanks again for everyones help, results later

Jim /images/graemlins/spade.gif

unfrgvn

10-12-2004, 05:21 PM

My .02.

Hand 1, many players will make this move with an under pair, or a worse A than yours. So I don't think calling is incorrect. Having said that, I probably would have folded if I really felt he was playing an under pair. I just hate having to catch to win a pot. If my stack is smaller then I think it's an auto call.

Hand 2. Even if your read of this player is correct, he is liable to have 2 over cards to your 4's. So if you call I think the best you can expect to be is a small favorite. You could also easily be a big dog to an overpair. I really try to avoid situations that are at best a coin flip, so I think I would have folded. 10's or above I'm calling.

kleraudio

10-12-2004, 05:39 PM

thanks for the insightful post, i think that second hand is a leak in my game that i will definitely work on.

Jim /images/graemlins/spade.gif

DyessMan89

10-12-2004, 05:46 PM

Hand #1: Nothing wrong with what you did. You're getting low in chips and this move would GREATLY help your chip stack. AK is a nice hand, and to win you have to take risks.

Hand #2: I would call. MP3 is getting very low in chips and it appears (to me atleast) that he needs to make a move and he doesnt have a huge hand. (although he certainly could) You're still in decent shape if you lose, but you'll be chip-leader is you call and win. It all depends on the read of your opponent is, though. If he played ROCK TIGHT all game, Id probobly lay this down.

lastchance

10-12-2004, 07:21 PM

#1, easy, easy, easy call. AK is awesome, you have less than 5x BB, though you have an average stack. Can't possibly imagine laying this down.

#2, I fold. He probably has 2 overs or an overpair, small favorite-big dog situation. Still got a decent stack, and I don't want to call half of my stack away with 4s.

SmileyEH

10-12-2004, 07:25 PM

Are you nuts?

I would rather shoot myself in the face than fold #1.
"" "" call #2.

-SmileyEH

kleraudio

10-14-2004, 07:52 PM

hey everyone, as promised here are the results

Hand #1

Final Pot: t3480
Main Pot: t3200 (t3200), between Hero and UTG. > Pot won by UTG (t3200).
Pot 2: t280 (t280), returned to UTG.

Results in blue below: 
Hero has As Kd (high card, ace).
UTG has Ks Kh (one pair, kings).
Outcome: UTG wins t3480. 

Hand #2

Final Pot: t1105
Main Pot: t1105 (t1105), between Hero and MP3. > Pot won by MP3 (t1105).

Results in blue below: 
Hero has 4s 4d (one pair, fours).
MP3 has Kd 9s (straight, king high).
Outcome: MP3 wins t1105. 

Nice huh /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Jim /images/graemlins/spade.gif