A challenge for Carpals and Pooh-Bahs (Was: An idea for Bison)

[BigBaitsim (milo)]

About the proliferation of repetative posts, I would bet that almost all of us, back in the day when we were still new to the forums posted some lame ass request for help or question that has been discussed ad nauseum. We've learned, and so will the newbies. This is a place to learn.

I challenge the elite of this forum (in terms of posts) to find or try to recall your first few posts. I remember asking how I was doing last October, shortly after finding the forums. I was worried that I was only breaking even after having played over 800 hands!! Laughable, but part of the learning process. Without 2+2 I'd have washed out long ago...

[BigEndian]

Heh, I think my first post was where do I post the freeplay hands for analysis or some such.

Not that this should allow us to be permissive of poor quality postings. A forum is at steak!!1 (for the wandering Lum crowd).

- Jim

[thirddan]

i only newly poobahed but i think my first post was a .25/.50 hand where i folded a flopped straight in a 40BB pot for one bet closing the action when the board double paired (i would have won)...I remember thinking "this hand will really stump these guys"

[Rubeskies]

I only have 200+ posts or whatever but I remember my first post was a question about whether to limp or raise UTG with JTo at .5/1.

Now I'm playing 3/6 and 5/10 and I feel that my posts are at least slightly interesting and that some of my advice is helpful. I think in general, most people get the idea pretty quickly.

[Joe Tall]

And old one, uninteresting hand. (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=smallholdem&Number=304882& Forum=,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,All_Forums,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,&Words=&Searchpage=26&Limit=25&M ain=304882&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=2620&dat erange=1&newerval=2&newertype=y&olderval=1&olderty pe=y&bodyprev=#Post304882)

Another w/great replies from Homer & Dynasty (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=smallholdem&Number=300508& Forum=,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,All_Forums,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,&Words=&Searchpage=27&Limit=25 &Main=300508&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=2620&d aterange=1&newerval=2&newertype=y&olderval=1&older type=y&bodyprev=#Post300508)

The old open-raise w/QJs from MP... (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=smallholdem&Number=287639& Forum=,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,All_Forums, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,&Words=&Searchpage =33&Limit=25&Main=287639&Search=true&where=bodysub &Name=2620&daterange=1&newerval=2&newertype=y&olde rval=1&oldertype=y&bodyprev=#Post287639)

Clarkmeister kicking me in the head for not raising QQ in the SB. (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=smallholdem&Number=279853& Forum=,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,All_Forum s,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,&Words=&Search page=35&Limit=25&Main=279853&Search=true&where=bod ysub&Name=2620&daterange=1&newerval=2&newertype=y& olderval=1&oldertype=y&bodyprev=#Post279853)

My first post (2nd actual post - 1st hand post) (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=smallholdem&Number=240377& Forum=,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,All_Forums,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,&Words=&Searchpage=45&Limit=25&Main=240377&S earch=true&where=bodysub&Name=2620&daterange=1&new erval=2&newertype=y&olderval=1&oldertype=y&bodypre v=#Post240377)

For the record you misunderstood what sublime was trying to accomplish. The converter makes posting easy. If we were to cut the volume down a lot of these posts may get the answer that are needed. It's shear volume that is an issue.

Peace,
Joe Tall

[cnfuzzd]

so i went back and started reviewing my posts, and i think it may be time to consider a new nick. I have had some beauties. Never a bad beat post though. I think,

peace

john nickle

[bisonbison]

Hey, I readily admit that I suck and have committed all the sins I'm now taking people to task for.

QQ in SB (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=micro&Number=415042&Forum= ,,,,,,All_Forums,,,,,,&Words=&Searchpage=13&Limit= 100&Main=415042&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=552 4&daterange=1&newerval=1&newertype=y&olderval=&old ertype=&bodyprev=#Post415042) - my first hand post. It included the results. I will note that my first hand post came 20 days after registering.

help me identify some PT leaks (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=micro&Number=423437&Forum= All_Forums&Words=pokertracker&Searchpage=0&Limit=1 00&Main=423437&Search=true&where=sub&Name=5524&dat erange=1&newerval=1&newertype=y&olderval=&oldertyp e=&bodyprev=#Post423437) - 2200 HANDS 2200 HANDS.

When to muck my aces here (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=micro&Number=450896&Forum= ,,,,,All_Forums,,,,,&Words=&Searchpage=12&Limit=10 0&Main=450896&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=5524& daterange=1&newerval=1&newertype=y&olderval=&older type=&bodyprev=#Post450896) - sigh

I'd like to complain about last night's trip to a local cardroom (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=holdem&Number=498273&Forum =,,,All_Forums,,,&Words=&Searchpage=10&Limit=100&M ain=498273&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=5524&dat erange=1&newerval=1&newertype=y&olderval=&oldertyp e=&bodyprev=#Post498273) - What a tool, but at least it was in the general forum.

me: "If you have pokertracker, you might consider posting some stats." (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showprofile.php?Cat=&User=5524&Number=508986&Board =micro&what=showflat&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&v c=1)

"Just make sure you get some real numbers down before you move up again. Something in the 20k hand range." (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=micro&Number=662688&Forum= ,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=1&Limit=100&Main=66 1425&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=5524&daterange =1&newerval=1&newertype=y&olderval=&oldertype=&bod yprev=#Post662688) sigh.

[colgin]

Hi everyone. I am certainly not in the elite category in terms of either number or quality of posts. Still, as a regular SSer who thinks he doesn't totally suck, I thought you would enjoy the following excerpt from my very first post and Clarkmeister's response to it:

"Colgin: 'High pocket pairs may very well not hold up [in ultra-loose, passive games] unless you make a set so don't jam the pot pre-flop with AA or KK'

Clarkmeister:'This is absolutely horrible advice.""

At that point I took a look at Clark's other posts and quickly realized he knew what he was talking about and that I most certainly did not. I don't think I did anything other than ask questions for the next few months since I was so ashamed of that first post. Finally, after learning a lot here and through the 2+2 boks and playing a lot online I finally ventured into repsonding to posts as well as posting questions. I can only hope that I am not saying things as comletely idiotic as back then.

Thanks to Clarkmeister and all of SS for putting me on the right track.

All the best,

Colgin

[sublime]

Joe-

The QQ thread amd the raise with JJ in the blinds thread (read it last night again) are PHENOMANAL. You have come a long way my friend.

Two observations:
#1 You are very stubborn, right up there with me and Sthief.

#2 Clark is very blunt /images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Trix]

Hi

Thx Clarkmeister and the others. (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=begin&Number=312693&Forum= f18&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=312693&Searc h=true&where=bodysub&Name=4241&daterange=1&newerva l=&newertype=w&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post 312693)

Omg, I didnt even bother reading through them now myself. (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=begin&Number=328549&Forum= f18&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=328549&Searc h=true&where=bodysub&Name=4241&daterange=1&newerva l=&newertype=w&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post 328549)

Didnt know the rules a year ago (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=begin&Number=328726&Forum= f18&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=328726&Searc h=true&where=bodysub&Name=4241&daterange=1&newerva l=&newertype=w&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post 328726)

laff, still dont get how to post hands.. (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=micro&Number=467764&Forum= f21&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=467764&Searc h=true&where=bodysub&Name=4241&daterange=1&newerva l=&newertype=y&olderval=9&oldertype=m&bodyprev=#Po st467764)

4 days after I started posting in micro (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=micro&Number=470342&Forum= ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,f21,,,,,,,,,,,,,,&Words=&Searchpage= 14&Limit=25&Main=470342&Search=true&where=bodysub& Name=4241&daterange=1&newerval=&newertype=y&olderv al=8&oldertype=m&bodyprev=#Post470342)

In case someone was wondering how not to play Aces... (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=micro&Number=470030&Forum= ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,f21,,,,,,,,,,,,,,&Words=&Searchpage= 14&Limit=25&Main=470030&Search=true&where=bodysub& Name=4241&daterange=1&newerval=&newertype=y&olderv al=8&oldertype=m&bodyprev=#Post470030)

Trix Forum ? (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=micro&Number=539841&Forum= f21&Words=trix&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=539814&S earch=true&where=bodysub&Name=1536&daterange=1&new erval=&newertype=w&olderval=´8&oldertype=m&bodypre v=#Post539841)

This was fun,

-Trix

Btw, Thx for the help to all who have put up with this /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Joe Tall]

It has been a long way. Looking back at that QQ thread I'm totally embarassed but that was part of the learning curve. I just kept arguing my point till the other posters beat the logic into me.

Also, look at the posters in that thread, I got real lucky they all hung out here then!

Peace,
Joe Tall

[sublime]

Also, look at the posters in that thread, I got real lucky they all hung out here then!

Word.

Speaking of, is Dynasty still alive?

[thirddan]

haha, i remember the micro days when i would log on and see ten hands in a row posted by you...good times...

[JoshuaD]

I'm really proud to say my first post was not embarassing. Trying to dig it up now.

Found it!
AQ hand (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=micro&Number=1073368&Forum =f21&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=50&Main=1073368&Sea rch=true&where=bodysub&Name=18363&daterange=1&newe rval=&newertype=w&olderval=&oldertype=w&bodyprev=# Post1073368)

[Joe Tall]

haha, i remember the micro days when i would log on and see ten hands in a row posted by you...good times

I remember those days and I miss his bouncing crazy smiley avatar. Out of all the motion avatars; Trix's was the only one I liked.

Peace,
Joe Tall

[Trix]

I lost the url /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[MarkD]

I think my first hand posted was interesting. (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=smallholdem&Number=647194& Forum=All_Forums&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=100&Mai n=647194&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=1601&dater ange=1&newerval=1&newertype=y&olderval=5&oldertype =m&bodyprev=#Post647194) (but it was initially tough to get anyone to respond to it)

Granted, I used to post here a long time ago and took a long hiatus where I forgot my nick. Generally speaking though I've always spent my time responding to hands rather than posting them.

[tolbiny]

Speaking of, is Dynasty still alive?

alive and posting in the politics forum

[nolanfan34]

[ QUOTE ]
I remember those days and I miss his bouncing crazy smily avatar. Out of all the motion avatars; Trix's was the only one I liked.

[/ QUOTE ]

Don't forget about Cup's Shakira avatar.

It really hasn't been that long ago, but my first post was about how I folded KK pf early in a home tournament when faced with a big reraise, and how I thought it was such a good play. I was roundly flamed. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Regarding the original post in the thread, I like Milo's point. I know the volume of posts right now is annoying, but the fact is it's a public forum, and you just can't really limit it when anyone can register and post here. Just because all of the regulars are annoyed that their witty posts are getting bumped doesn't mean something needs to be done to prevent that. I agree that it's also annoying when there's a post with just converter text without context, and I think a sticky "how to" is still a good idea.

As it is right now, this is the most "inside baseball" forum on the site, IMO. A CDC, Bison, Stheif, or Sfer post gets like 50 replies, while unknown posters get 3 or 4. And most of the 50 replies are just you guys responding to each other. I learn a lot by reading those posts. But reading the idea for Bison thread, it reminded me of when I was a kid, and we built a tree fort in the woods. As much as my friends and I wanted, we couldn't keep the other neighborhood kids away from it, because it was out in a public place.

Anyway, I'm rambling, but I think the forum generally works fine as is. Boring hands get no replies, and the good ones keep getting bumped back to the front for more discussion eventually. When I post a hand and don't get many responses, I assume I probably played it the correct way.

[joker122]

My favorite: a reply to a young Bakku who asked if he can continue with a flopped set even though the board was monotone. I proved, through grueling calculations, that, yes, you can.

[BottlesOf]

Whatever happened to RobK?

[joker122]

[ QUOTE ]
Trying to dig it up now.


[/ QUOTE ]

You must have dug DEEP into the archives to find this fossil.

[bakku]

[ QUOTE ]
My favorite: a reply to a young Bakku who asked if he can continue with a flopped set even though the board was monotone. I proved, through grueling calculations, that, yes, you can.

[/ QUOTE ]

That was a horrible horrible thread, I can't believe I once played poker like that. bakku's horrible first ever post (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=smallholdem&Number=510 964&Forum=f3&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=1000&Main=5 10964&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=7932&daterang e=1&newerval=1&newertype=y&olderval=&oldertype=&bo dyprev=#Post510964)

[Evan]

I'm hardly what I would call an elite poster, but I thought it would be fun to look back at my first post. I actually think my advice and reasoning was pretty good (shockingly) and I turned out to be right.
A younger and more innocent Evan (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=smallholdem&Number=762548& Forum=f3&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=762535& Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=11253&daterange=1&n ewerval=&newertype=&olderval=3&oldertype=m&bodypre v=#Post762548)

[Sponger15SB]

[ QUOTE ]
I would bet that almost all of us, back in the day when we were still new to the forums posted some lame ass request for help or question that has been discussed ad nauseum.

[/ QUOTE ]

This wasn't strategey related but I think I win. (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=gossip&Number=733510&Forum =,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=1&Limit=25&Main=73 3510&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=10714&daterang e=1&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=4&oldertype=m&bo dyprev=#Post733510)

Fanboy Alert!

I wish I would have asked if anyone knew the pro's names who play there.

[Entity]

I'm nowhere near the "elite" of the forum, since I'm not SS yet and most people don't know me, but I've amassed way too many posts in my short time here, and it's been fun to see the transition anyway. Heh.

Do I complete 96s in the SB? (wtf was up with this thread getting 72 posts?) (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=micro&Number=862326&Forum= ,,All_Forums,,&Words=&Searchpage=2&Limit=25&Main=8 60384&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=13485&dateran ge=1&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=2&oldertype=m&b odyprev=#Post862326)

I learn not to coldcall with mid-pairs, after being upset due to a 18BB downswing (part of a larger 45BB downswing, though). (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=micro&Number=842543&Forum= ,,,All_Forums,,,&Words=&Searchpage=3&Limit=25&Main =842506&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=13485&dater ange=1&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=2&oldertype=m &bodyprev=#Post842543)

If anything, hopefully it helps me be a bit nicer to the new guys who are asking why you raise with a flush draw 6-handed. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Rob

[bisonbison]

Milo,

Just so we're clear, before the retitling was this whole thread going to be calling me out for being a dick? I'm just curious.

[Joe Tall]

Whatever happened to RobK?

He's still here in this thread. Also check out a classic reply by elysium. (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1117330&page=0&view=colla psed&sb=5&o=14&fpart=1)

Peace,
Joe Tall

[Gatts]

[ QUOTE ]
A forum is at steak!!1 (for the wandering Lum crowd).

[/ QUOTE ]

You just made my day.

Darrel

[JTG51]

[ QUOTE ]
It has been a long way. Looking back at that QQ thread I'm totally embarassed but that was part of the learning curve. I just kept arguing my point till the other posters beat the logic into me.

Also, look at the posters in that thread, I got real lucky they all hung out here then!

Peace,
Joe Tall

[/ QUOTE ]

Also notice that some of those posters liked the preflop limp with QQ. You're not the only one that's come a long way since then.

[J.R.]

Robk posted in the mid high stakes pot and no limit AND limit forums yesterday. And jeffage posted in SS yesterday. And J_V posted something akin to startegy the other day in the J7s mid sttakes thread. I feel overwhelmed /images/graemlins/smile.gif Maybe Homer will post a Party 2-4 hand and vehn will get unbanned. Maybe even JTG51 will post in SS /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[crockpot]

my first post was titled 'ray zee sucks' and it went into detail about why. i remember that much.

[spamuell]

Ironically, in posting in this thread I am becoming a pooh-bah. I want into the lounge!

Mr first post was:

How badly did I play this? (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=smallholdem&Number=359669& Forum=All_Forums&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=1000&Ma in=359669&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=5053&date range=1&newerval=3&newertype=y&olderval=&oldertype =&bodyprev=1#Post359669)

Nothing more than an incredibly weak-tight me posting a thinly veiled bad beat story, and also raising KQo pre-flop because I could "easily fold to a reraise". At least I took into account pot size on the flop, though. I actually got a very helpful reply from GoT, although at the time I didn't realise how helpful he was being.

Do I check-fold top two pair when the third flush card hits? (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=smallholdem&Number=364049& Forum=All_Forums&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=1000&Ma in=364049&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=5053&date range=1&newerval=3&newertype=y&olderval=&oldertype =&bodyprev=1#Post364049)

I don't get GoT's advice in this thread actually now, I would have though I would want a player on my left to bet, not my right.

I've just looked over all of my first few posts in SS and GuyOnTilt has replied to literally almost all of them. If you read this, GoT, thanks, I appreciate it now, I didn't realise how valuable your advice was then.

[MicroBob]

I completely agree and have already made similar arguments in the past.
The newbie questions aren't really getting that much worse....but it might seem like they are now that you are a better player.

One of my first posts in this forum regarded a live hand I played where I had 66 on board of 5689 and thought the bet and the raise had to mean FOR CERTAIN that someone had the 7 and I was beat.
After I folded I was heartbroken when the case 6 came on the river.
I was properly told by several on this forum that I played the hand like a retard.


FWIW - when I first started playing online poker I didn't know whether a flush beat a full-house or vice-versa.
I also didn't know what the NL or PL next to the table name meant in the Stars lobby and I thought a Sit-And-Go was a toy I had when I was a kid that used to spin me around really fast and make me throw-up (I think those were called Sit-And-Spins actually).

maybe a couple months later I found these forums and I had no idea what Under-the-gun, cut-off, and other terms meant.
I was ahead of the newbie pack on terms like BB/hr and Standrard Deviation from having read a few Blackjack card-counting books though.

[Skjonne]

[ QUOTE ]
when I first started playing online poker I didn't know whether a flush beat a full-house or vice-versa.

[/ QUOTE ]

On a semilar note, I remember losing 5c (FL 1c/2c) by hanging in there all the way to showdown with A3 on a flop of KQ2. I knew that it maybe weren't a straight but I had to find out somehow

[Trix]

Your right is the ones who act right before you, meaning the LP players when you are in the blinds..

[spamuell]

Your right is the ones who act right before you, meaning the LP players when you are in the blinds..

Trix, I realise that, but with top two pair, I want a player on my left to bet so I can check-raise the field and build a big pot. If I make the field face two bets cold, the hands that I want to fold aren't going to anyway (like flush draws). It's pretty intuitive to me at this stage that this is the correct play for that reason, is my intution wrong?

[Trix]

Thought you had toppair.
Betting is clearly correct here, maybe GoT missread it too.
I think the opponents are bad enough to bet the turn aswell. It´s an interesting hand though, it deserved more replies.

[BigBaitsim (milo)]

[ QUOTE ]
Milo,

Just so we're clear, before the retitling was this whole thread going to be calling me out for being a dick? I'm just curious.

[/ QUOTE ]

As with CDC, you are my hero. Can't imagine anyone here calling you a dick (except for the odd victim of apithy remark).

[Luke]

AJo UTG - raise, call, or fold? (showflat.php?Cat=&Board=smallholdem&Number=250092 &Forum=,All_Forums,&Words=&Searchpage=1&Limit=25&M ain=250092&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=2814&dat erange=1&newerval=2&newertype=y&olderval=15&oldert ype=m&bodyprev=#Post250092)

My first post ever. Not a terrible subject to bring up for debate, but man, paragraphs, please.

Luke

[bigfishead]

Dont put too much emphasis on how many posts or how long a player has been reg'd here.

I am only one, but I have been here since 1998. Under a different name, Long before one would actually register here or get private messages. I moved away from my computer for over a year and the format changed so I was "new".

I am sure there are many others that have gone through similiar. In fact I know one of the old regulars that doesnt even post here anymore, but still lurks. Yet he has alot to contribute.

People like Clarkmeister, Pokerbabe, Tommy Angelo, Fossilman, Andy Fox, Matt Flynn etc were all here before the "turn of the century". Well before the huge proliferation of internet poker. Learn from the concepts described by them and others as well.

But just because a person has been here for 2 yrs does not make them a great poker player. Nor does it mean because they have only been here for 6 months they are NOT a great poker player.

[bdk3clash]

[ QUOTE ]
But just because a person has been here for 2 yrs does not make them a great poker player.

[/ QUOTE ]
So you're saying I still have 6 months left to become great? I'm pretty happy being mediocre-good.

[bigfishead]

I guess I am also saying, read the content/context of the posts. Learn the thought processes. Find non-math reasons(as math is math so those answers are natural) and situations for the options of plays to be made and why.

I enjoy looking for a deeper level of thinking within a post. Whether it be my own deeper thoughts of the situation or the posters. Then I like to simplify the actions, based on the combinations of math/thought processes/situations/Players involved.


Many of us have known losing players for much more than 10 years. Longevity of play doesnt always make a player. Nor does lack of make them total fish after probably at least 1-2 years of play. But most players just are not that good, certainly in the B&M sense, with less than 2 years of play. I certainly wasnt and I studied daily. Internet poker speeds this process up a bit...but what a rude awakening when a player gets into B&M play. The phsycological part of game is totally different. This includes reading people and their actions/reactions which is unavailable in internet play.

[sublime]

So you're saying I still have 6 months left to become great? I'm pretty happy being mediocre-good

Same here.

I put myslelf in the same skill bracket as yourself (maybe thats not a compliemt /images/graemlins/wink.gif) and I feel I am better than a "large" majority of mid limit casino players and low limit internet players.

As a matter of fact, my game started moving forwards again once I relaized that I cant "force" myself to become better faster than I should become better. That, like everything else in life, comes in its due time.

Brad- You gonna come with Sfer when he comes to foxwoods?

[bernie]

If i was a chick, and smoked, i'd get me a carton of virginia slims.

b

[Michael Davis]

Jeez, in my thousandth post of the no registration days I told someone to fold a hand when they were getting enough odds by three times and continued to defend myself throughout the thread. I'm sure that's worse than asking a stupid question.

-Michael