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bdk3clash
10-11-2004, 05:13 PM
Why doesn't Party just make every game a 1/2 blind structure?

If their logic is that they want to avoid $x.50 blinds, why does the $3/6 game use a 1/3 blind structure and the $15/30 a 2/3, while the $5/10 uses a 2/5 structure?

Why not make the $3/6 a 2/3 blind structure and the $5/10 a 3/5 structure to encourage larger pots and hence more rake?

jrobb83
10-11-2004, 05:25 PM
Their reason is likely because that's the way that it is done in casinos at those levels. Why it is done there, I have no idea.

Maybe it is done to entice players into playing the lowest limit, since it doesn't "cost" them as much per round of play, and therefore to a novice appears cheaper than if they were paying more in blinds.

bdk3clash
10-11-2004, 05:27 PM
Are $10/15 blinds more common than $5/15 blinds in most B&M $15-30 games?

sammy_g
10-11-2004, 05:49 PM
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Their reason is likely because that's the way that it is done in casinos at those levels. Why it is done there, I have no idea.

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Probably for the same reason they have a larger ante at the higher limits in stud: to encourage action and make slightly looser play more correct. This way the fish don't go bust *quite* as quickly against the skilled players who play in these high limit games. I doubt the blind structure in 15/30 hold'em has as great an impact as a $3 ante does in 15/30 stud, though.

Party does do other things to try to protect the fish. For instance, they have a relatively low cap on the buyin for the NL games relative to the blind structure. Also, the ante is ridiculously large in the low limit stud games there.

Mason has some interesting comments on game structure in his poker essay books.

GuyOnTilt
10-11-2004, 05:53 PM
Are $10/15 blinds more common than $5/15 blinds in most B&M $15-30 games?

No. Most 3/6 chip games are played with 1/3 blinds. But I'm very, very, very glad Party's 15 is 2/3.

GoT

daryn
10-11-2004, 05:54 PM
i've never seen a live 15/30 w/ 5 and 15 blinds.

GuyOnTilt
10-11-2004, 06:31 PM
i've never seen a live 15/30 w/ 5 and 15 blinds.

Heh. Everywhere I've ever played 15/30 it's been 1/3. The 30/60 and 60/120 at the Commerce are also 1/3.

GoT

balkii
10-11-2004, 08:33 PM
But I'm very, very, very glad Party's 15 is 2/3.

GoT, i'm curious, for what reason? Is it because it makes blind play (a weak spot in many player's game) much more important? Or is it because the larger initial pot size allows losing players to hang onto their money a bit longer (thus keeping the games good)? OR some other reason?

OrangeHeat
10-11-2004, 09:10 PM
me neither - it has always been 10/15.

Orange

Piers
10-11-2004, 10:32 PM
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Their reason is likely because that's the way that it is done in casinos at those levels. Why it is done there, I have no idea.


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Probably. I believe 10/15 rather than 7.5/15 blinds so people only have to use $5 chips and not 50c chips.

jrobb83
10-12-2004, 01:33 AM
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check-fold river may be an option, not sure.

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Every 15/30 game I've seen has been 2/3 structure. Also, the local 6/12 game here in AZ is played with a 2/3 structure with $2 chips I believe.

Big Bend
10-12-2004, 01:54 AM
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But I'm very, very, very glad Party's 15 is 2/3

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Why?

Agreed, go Astros!

SinCityGuy
10-12-2004, 02:46 AM
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Are $10/15 blinds more common than $5/15 blinds in most B&M $15-30 games?

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In Las Vegas, the 15/30 and 30/60 games use a 2/3 blind structure.

laja
10-12-2004, 03:25 AM
"But I'm very, very, very glad Party's 15 is 2/3.

GoT, i'm curious, for what reason?"

The 15/30 party game seems especially loose and 1 reason is probably that people are over-compensating for an increase in blind.

turnipmonster
10-15-2004, 10:51 AM
basically the more money in the middle at the beginning of the hand, the more people are going to want (and should want) to win it. also, the SB will call (correctly) with many more hands preflop for one chip, making for hot party poker multiway action baby!

1/3 blind games are almost always tighter than 2/3 games.

--turnipmonster

bdk3clash
10-15-2004, 11:08 AM
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basically the more money in the middle at the beginning of the hand, the more people are going to want (and should want) to win it. also, the SB will call (correctly) with many more hands preflop for one chip, making for hot party poker multiway action baby!

1/3 blind games are almost always tighter than 2/3 games.

--turnipmonster

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I agree. This is also why the pink chip games ($7.50/$15 played with $2.50 pink chips normally used for blackjack) in AC are generally so loose and aggressive--the SB is $5 and the BB $7.50.

I guess the real question is, why doesn't Party make the SB in the $3/6 game $2 (instead of $1), and the SB in the $5/10 game $3 (instead of $2)?

Bubu
10-15-2004, 11:25 AM
Pacific has a 5-15 blind strucure in the 15-30 game.

What is the usual structure for the 30-60 ? online it always seems to be 15-30. In Vegas its 20-30 (at least in the bellagio with their $10 chips). I gues it depends on what chips they use to play.