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GWB
10-11-2004, 08:07 AM
NYT Magazine Interview 10/10/04 (http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/10/magazine/10KERRY.html?oref=login&oref=login&pagewanted=prin t&position=&oref=regi)
This is a very long magazine article that is very revealing of Kerry's character (or lack thereof).

<font color="red"> on water: </font>

''Can we get any of my water?'' he asked Stephanie Cutter, his communications director, who dutifully scurried from the room. I asked Kerry, out of sheer curiosity, what he didn't like about Evian.

''I hate that stuff,'' Kerry explained to me. ''They pack it full of minerals.''

''What kind of water do you drink?'' I asked, trying to make conversation.

''Plain old American water,'' he said.

''You mean tap water?''

''No,'' Kerry replied deliberately. He seemed now to sense some kind of trap. I was left to imagine what was going through his head. If I admit that I drink bottled water, then he might say I'm out of touch with ordinary voters. But doesn't demanding my own brand of water seem even more aristocratic? Then again, Evian is French -- important to stay away from anything even remotely French.

''There are all kinds of waters,'' he said finally. Pause. ''Saratoga Spring.'' This seemed to have exhausted his list. ''Sometimes I drink tap water,'' he added.

<font color="red"> on 9/11:</font>

When I asked Kerry how Sept. 11 had changed him, either personally or politically, he seemed to freeze for a moment.

''It accelerated -- '' He paused. ''I mean, it didn't change me much at all. It just sort of accelerated, confirmed in me, the urgency of doing the things I thought we needed to be doing. I mean, to me, it wasn't as transformational as it was a kind of anger, a frustration and an urgency that we weren't doing the kinds of things necessary to prevent it and to deal with it.''

Kerry did allow that he, like other Americans, felt less safe after 9/11. ''Look, until a few months ago,'' he said, referring to the time before he was enveloped in a Secret Service escort and whisked around on charter planes, ''I was flying like everybody else, you know, going through things. Absolutely, I've looked at people very carefully on an airplane. I'd look at shoes. I'd check people who I thought might be a little squirrelly. Going into crowded events, I feel very much on the alert.''

<font color="red">on terrorism:</font>

When I asked Kerry what it would take for Americans to feel safe again, he displayed a much less apocalyptic worldview. ''We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance,'' Kerry said. ''As a former law-enforcement person, I know we're never going to end prostitution. We're never going to end illegal gambling. But we're going to reduce it, organized crime, to a level where it isn't on the rise. It isn't threatening people's lives every day, and fundamentally, it's something that you continue to fight, but it's not threatening the fabric of your life.''

This analogy struck me as remarkable, if only because it seemed to throw down a big orange marker between Kerry's philosophy and the president's. Kerry, a former prosecutor, was suggesting that the war, if one could call it that, was, if not winnable, then at least controllable. If mobsters could be chased into the back rooms of seedy clubs, then so, too, could terrorists be sent scurrying for their lives into remote caves where they wouldn't harm us.

<font color="red">Did you notice that Kerry talks of Terrorism as a "nuisance"? </font>

<font color="green"> And it looks like he is against us gamblers too. </font>

The once and future king
10-11-2004, 08:27 AM
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And it looks like he is against us gamblers too.


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And you are for us? Pot meet mr Kettle.

elwoodblues
10-11-2004, 09:05 AM
Kerry Quote:

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''We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance

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I don't know if I even agree that terrorists are the focus of our lives --- maybe of our politicians lives, but as far as my daily life, not at all.

In concrete terms, how has terrorism affected your daily routine?

For me --- not much at all. Only when I fly (and that is fairly infrequent --- even then not a big deal).

pokerjo22
10-11-2004, 10:22 AM
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And it looks like he is against us gamblers too.

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Are you admitting you're a gambler George? I don't think the Christian Right will approve.

sam h
10-11-2004, 02:02 PM
GWB, you are getting very good at perfectly mirroring the rhetoric coming out of your campaign.

Did you read the whole article? Does the context matter to you? Do you have any investment whatsoever in actually presenting a nuanced assessment of what Kerry said in that interview, or just in lifting quotes out that, viewed in isolation, might look bad?

Daliman
10-11-2004, 02:29 PM
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''We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance,''

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Reading comprehension is a skill. Not sure why I expect YOU to posess it though.

Yes, at one time, they WERE little more than a nuisance in the grand scheme of things. Now, given in part to the massive amount of international disgust you have sown, they are a major problem, albeit even STILL not one that significantly changes a sigificant portion of people's lives.

Enjoy your last 22 days.

andyfox
10-11-2004, 02:53 PM
The president has bragged about not reading, and GWB has proven on this forum that he can't.

texaspimp
10-11-2004, 03:26 PM
Nuanced! The legacy of the Kerry campaign.

Cambodia at Christmas was seared into his memory, yet the nuance was that he was not there.

Yea, that is slight difference.

It is good to know that Bush 43's policies have led to the escalating hatred of the United States over the last 50 or so years. I guess all of the policy changes he enacted beginning in January '01 led to September 11th.

Or is that another nuance?

vulturesrow
10-11-2004, 11:29 PM
The problem with the analogy is this. First off, have prostitution or illegal gambling ever been a threat to our daily lives? In fact, the reality of the matter is that prostitution and illegal gambling are in effect ignored by law enforcement. Secondly, has terrorism ever been just a nuisance? I can can throw a whole litany of terrorist attacks leading up to 9/11. Were they nuisances just because they didnt affect some of us directly?

To be fair to Kerry, I do agree with part of his underlying point in that you are not every going to completely eliminate terrorism. Bush said this himself and then regrettably tried to distance himself. But to liken terrorism to illegal gambling or prostitution reveals a real flaw in the way Kerry looks at the whole issue.