Two overpair hands vs. confident betting. [Archive]

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AdamL

10-10-2004, 09:18 PM

First hand I'm against guys that play very loose and aggressive when they like their hands. I wouldn't be surprised to find button flipping over J9o at the end.

Second hand I love my spot. Looks like a blind steal and Party players love to over defend their blinds. Nontheless, when he leads the river do I just call? I wondered if my river raise was a bit much.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
2 folds, UTG+2 raises, 2 folds, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (5 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG+2 folds, MP3 calls, Button caps, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (11.50 BB) K/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks, Button bets, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

River: (14.50 BB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks, Button bets, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 17.50 BB
Main Pot: 17.50 BB, between MP3, Button and Hero.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
7 folds, Hero raises, SB calls, 1 fold.

Flop: (5 SB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero caps, SB calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB calls.

River: (10.50 BB) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB calls.

Final Pot: 14.50 BB
Main Pot: 14.50 BB, between Hero and SB.

sluttysteve

10-10-2004, 09:31 PM

Hand 1: 3-bet preflop.

Hand 2: I might just call river, but he might just have a Q and is betting every safe card.

DyessMan89

10-10-2004, 09:38 PM

Hand #1- I dont know about being that agrressive once the King comes up ... I probobly would have played it the same, though.

Hand #2- I would have played it the same.

AdamL

10-10-2004, 09:45 PM

Stuff getting 3-bet preflop not infrequently. Just about every preflop raised.

But I'm still not sure about this one.
Is the pot big enough to bother calling him down when he
leads the turn?

Flop raise: Wanted to find out where I was... does he have AK/AKs/AQs, was he 3-betting to "build the pot" from the big blind? Or does he have AA-JJ, all of which I'm hopelessly behind...

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. UTG posts a blind of $3.
UTG (poster) checks, 2 folds, MP2 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, SB calls, BB 3-bets, UTG calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (15 SB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (5 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG folds, MP2 folds, Hero raises, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

River: (11.50 BB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB
Main Pot: 13.50 BB, between BB and Hero.

AdamL

10-10-2004, 09:53 PM

When is it advantageous to just call a raise with QQ in order to improve your ev?