Hey Guys.....

[Forgive_Ryan_21]

I am a close personal friend of Ryan_21 from Florida. Look, I know he is a moron sometimes and he gets drunk and talks sh it. I have been his friend since we were 5 years old. He always has had a temper, and he always rebels and lashes out against people who dont necessarily agree with him. I know sometimes he says stupid sh it, like racist stuff but he means nothing by it, I know for a fact that Ryan_21 is the most non-racist person I have ever met. His Grandfather is Irish, his Grandmother is Native American (Seminole Indian) His Fathers side is half black, so Ryan is a complete mut in human terms. I have known him for a long time and seen him talk a lot of [censored] and get into a lot of fights, but his defense mechanism is to rebel against people who differ in opinion from him.

Look I know about his difficulties in the poker world. I myself dont gamble or play poker but I understand his passion for poker. And I am here to tell everyone who has outcast Ryan to please give him the benifit of the doubt. He is a jokester and likes to make jokes that may be only funny to him, but he means nothing by them other than to be funny, and I know some people take them wrong. Hell, Ive taken them wrong, but Ryan is a great person. He has the biggest heart I've ever seen in a person and mostly loves to help people. A little know fact about Ryan is that he is a Law enforcement officer and loves to help people. I know you would have never guessed by his behavior on here. But, like I said, he likes to act a fool sometimes and show his a$$.

If there is one thing I know about Ryan that I can speak from experience is that he is a damn good poker player, and has supported himself from playing poker for 7 years. He has been a pro at it since he was 17, he is 24 now and is very damn good. Another thing I know about Ryan and Poker is that him being outcast on this website has weakened him and tore him down. He loved this website and the community on it. He love the commrodery and I know he fu cked up but dude is a genious. He has an IQ of over 140 and I know he loves poker and I dont think he ever ment to offend anybody. He just trys to be funny sometimes and it isnt so funny to other people but him. But I wish you all would just let by gones be by gones. because Ryan is a dear friend of mine and I know he is a good guy/poker player/ and commrad.

[Stork]

Who's Ryan?

[Big_Ben]

yeah, im a long time lurker, but this post is wierd. who is ryan21?

[Sincere]

Stork, I have played w/ Ryan_21 at the Mirage 6-12, 10-20, and Bellagio 15-30 on a few occasions. I knew his reputation on 2+2 and in the poker world as someone who was an outcast and someone who walked to the beat of his own drummer.

I personally have read just about every post of Ryans on 2+2 that is still availible(some have been deleted) because just about all apply to me because I am a jewish man. See Ryan has made some offensive racist remarks on this message board against jewish people. But after talking to him on a couple occasions I have come to the conclusion that it is all just an act to get attention. Ryan even told me once that he "like to get a reaction on 2+2" "because he thought people on here were to dumb realize he was just joking."

I know it sounds stupid but I can vouch for Ryan having a high IQ over 140-150, he really honestly thinks people who dont understand him are inferior to him. But it is a great mentality for a person who lives by poker. Without reveling his real name I know from talking to him and seeing first hand that the guy has 2 WSOP bracelets.

Look as a Jewish man myself. I dont find it funny what he posted here in the past but he is a really cool dude if you ever get to know him. I know in my heart he really means fun and games by what he does, but he is a really great poker player.

Sin

[La Brujita]

Ryan has 2 WSOP bracelets?

[Sincere]

Yes, he does, both in hold em. Look, Im a Jew through and through, but what Ryan has said about my people, I think is funny. Maybe, it is because I have talked to Ryan on a personal level. But Ryan is a clown, and he only trys to be funny, maybe not to everybody pleasure, but it is still a laugh, Im not offended.

[hudat]

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Ryan has 2 WSOP bracelets?

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Maybe he bought them on ebay??

[BradleyT]

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Yes, he does, both in hold em.

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Winner at poker - loser at life.

[Sincere]

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Winner at poker - loser at life.

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Look, if thats what you guys want to call it then so be it. But he lives life like he want to. Man, I am the first to say he is a [censored] up. Man, seriously, I tryed to get him in programs. But he wont listen to nobody. He doesnt want fame. All he cares about is: He said this to me in the 15-30 Mirage game " life is a big cluster [censored], "either you are the fucker or the bitch getting
[censored]."

I mean, seriously, I dont know the dude good enought to read him. He has a family, but, I know the guy lives in the fast lane. As "fast as life can go" as he has told me.

Sin

[Thythe]

These posts are so stupid...Ryan doesn't need to be forgiven. All he has to do is stop posting about being forgiven and actually post about poker. 90% of the time he just says something stupid and then asks to be forgiven. I've never seen one poker post from him. Also, just sign up with a non-Ryan username and no one will even know its you/him.

[Sincere]

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Maybe he bought them on ebay??

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No he didnt! Look, I dont know why Im taking up for him, but I have felt like I have bonded with him. He earned them. He may be a screw up, but who says a screw up cant win bracelets?

[umdpoker]

Also, just sign up with a non-Ryan username and no one will even know its you/him

perhaps this "man with the 140 iq" is already ahead of you?

[Thythe]

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Also, just sign up with a non-Ryan username and no one will even know its you/him

perhaps this "man with the 140 iq" is already ahead of you?

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haha, oh I agree that there is a good chance that he is Ryan21, but Ryan21 is still in his Username. He needs to come back as like SeaMonkey55...that looks nothing like Ryan21.

[beernutz]

A guy with 2 WSOP bracelets plays 6/12?

[jedi]

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I know sometimes he says stupid sh it, like racist stuff but he means nothing by it, I know for a fact that Ryan_21 is the most non-racist person I have ever met. His Grandfather is Irish, his Grandmother is Native American (Seminole Indian) His Fathers side is half black, so Ryan is a complete mut in human terms.

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Are you saying that mutts can't be racist?

[thirddan]

according to pokerpages there is nobody named Ryan that has 2 WSOP bracelets...

[HavanaBanana]

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A guy with 2 WSOP bracelets plays 6/12?



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Tom McEvoy WSOP champion plays $5-10 at Stars

Tot

[Losing all]

So I guess he's a semi-pro cop? totally "during the day I win wsop's. By night I police up the streets for a little extra income"

What a turd smoker

[pudley4]

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He has an IQ of over 140

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So that puts him in about the 75th percentile here at 2+2.

Nobody cares.

[mackthefork]

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He has an IQ of over 140


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So that puts him in about the 75th percentile here at 2+2.

Nobody cares.

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Haha thats funny, but I doubt its true.

Regards Mack

[GrannyMae]

I know from talking to him and seeing first hand that the guy has 2 WSOP bracelets.

he is lying to you.

there is nobody 24 or under with 2 wsop bracelets except one person, and that person is *NOT* ryan the nazi. as a matter of fact, i believe this 23 yr old with 2 bracelets may be jewish (but i am just basing this on his name, not known fact)

therefore, everything he has told you is 100% non-credible. as a jewish man you should be ashamed to be defending this racist and overt liar.

[Francis Dollarhyde]

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Winner at poker - loser at life.

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Look, if thats what you guys want to call it then so be it. But he lives life like he want to. Man, I am the first to say he is a [censored] up. Man, seriously, I tryed to get him in programs. But he wont listen to nobody. He doesnt want fame. All he cares about is: He said this to me in the 15-30 Mirage game " life is a big cluster [censored], "either you are the fucker or the bitch getting
[censored]."

I mean, seriously, I dont know the dude good enought to read him. He has a family, but, I know the guy lives in the fast lane. As "fast as life can go" as he has told me.

Sin

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Yeah, you play poker with him a few times and then you try to get him into programs. But, you don't know the guy good enough to read him. Plus, you wrote a book on the wisdom and other sharp quips of Ryan.

SINCERE is just a handle of Ryan_21. Its painfully obvious.

[Lazymeatball]

There are about 46 2 time bracelet winners. If somebody wants to check out each one to see who has not played any major tournaments before 2001 (as this 24 year old would be underage then) they can at the Hendon Mob site. http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/rank.php?a=r&n=128

And Scott Fischman don't count. It would be a waste of time however, as this guy is BS'ing us

[GrannyMae]

fischman is of course who i was referring to. i don't even believe that there is anyone else who had 2 bracelets by the time they were 24.

hellmouth won his at 24, and it was his first. this year, gavin became the youngest ever at 21.

if ryan_21 = fischman, then it is true. if ryan_21 does not = fischman, then it is a lie.

fischman is pathetic, but he clearly would not be begging for acceptance from the zoo using a handle associated with naziism.

[SamJack]

Bracelet is given for all the event winners, not just for the Main event. no?

SamJack

[PapaSan]

he could be the reincarnation of stuey ungar

[GrannyMae]

Bracelet is given for all the event winners, not just for the Main event. no?

yes.

even ryan_21 would not have tried to claim he was the winner of 2 championship events. this person who is defending him and vouching for the 2 bracelts apparently thinks we are total morons, or that it would be too hard for anyone to check. since he has been legal for only 3 years, it would make checking easy regardless of the event.

my statement that i do not believe any person 24 or under won 2 bracelets includes all events. i think fischman is the only person to have won 2 by the time he was 24 and as we all know, they were not in the 10k event. if there are any other 2 bracelet winners that were 24 or under, it did not happen when ryan was of legal age.

[Lazymeatball]

the Winner of every event gets a bracelet.
Therefore you end up with 7 Time Bracelet winner Billy "Low-Ball Specialist" Baxter, who has 5 bracelets in Deuce to Seven Draw, 2 in Ace to Five draw, and then in '02 he decided to mix it up with a 1st place in Razz.

[Losing all]

Nope, that's his bro, stuball.

[kylemontero]

Who cares

[AncientPC]

Apparently Ryan does, he pisses everyone off and then wants to be buddy buddy.

[Blarg]

Why is enabling an arrogant racist by forgiving and accepting his behavior help out in any way either him or the people he aggravates?

I never even heard of Ryan_21 and couldn't care less -- but I'm surprised anyone would think it's a good idea to hear more and give someone who thinks he's better than others and purposely aggravates and insults them some kind of big community group hug. Sounds like he's way overdue for growing up a bit, not being forgiven. He's probably only gotten himself in trouble by being forgiven too many times, instead of set straight.

I used to have a friend like that ... always asking to be forgiven. His friends either dropped him eventually or just told him that instead of asking to be forgiven all the time, he should stop creating situations he had to be forgiven for.

Which he didn't. Screwing with and taking advantage of people, even his friends, was too much of a temptation for him to resist. Eventually even his sappiest, dumbest friends just got fed up and wised up, and now he's got no friends at all. Good thing, too. Now he finally has a chance to grow up instead of just be forgiven one more time.

[Terry Funk]

This Ryan guy seems like a nice guy. I say we forgive him.

[beernutz]

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Why is enabling an arrogant racist by forgiving and accepting his behavior help out in any way either him or the people he aggravates?

I never even heard of Ryan_21 and couldn't care less -- but I'm surprised anyone would think it's a good idea to hear more and give someone who thinks he's better than others and purposely aggravates and insults them some kind of big community group hug. Sounds like he's way overdue for growing up a bit, not being forgiven. He's probably only gotten himself in trouble by being forgiven too many times, instead of set straight.

I used to have a friend like that ... always asking to be forgiven. His friends either dropped him eventually or just told him that instead of asking to be forgiven all the time, he should stop creating situations he had to be forgiven for.

Which he didn't. Screwing with and taking advantage of people, even his friends, was too much of a temptation for him to resist. Eventually even his sappiest, dumbest friends just got fed up and wised up, and now he's got no friends at all. Good thing, too. Now he finally has a chance to grow up instead of just be forgiven one more time.

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This is no problem for Ryan. If he needs friends he'll just invent some more.

[Sincere]

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if ryan_21 = fischman, then it is true. if ryan_21 does not = fischman, then it is a lie.


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Out of respect for the man and his wishes I will not reveal his true identity. All I will say, is maybe it is who you think it is, or maybe the 2 bracelets I saw were from some other tournament and I was just confused?

[DesertCat]

I've never read any of his stuff before, but since Sincere and ForgiveRyan both have identical writing styles, and "Sincere" just posted the following

"If you think a real ghetto ass gang bangin true playa ballin ass muthafuckin str8 ridin thug-life living hardcore thug is afraid of some 40 year old cross-dressing [censored] wanna-be forum leader wanna-be, cross dressing trying to get some sympathy for some fake ass disease [censored], trying to pretend to be some Q5 of spades fake ass legend. Then you are seriously mistaken!"

uner the "Playing Online in My Gazeebo" thread, can I assume they are all the same original Ryan loser?

[Inthacup]

Man, that is so sad.