folding trips????

[phrosty]

A recent hand got me wondering about the proper play of a set when you need to hit the full house to win. In the small blind I picked up a pair of 6's and limped in hoping to catch the set, five of us took the flop with no pre-flop raise. The flop came K, 8, 6 all spades and I led out for $1.50(.10-.25 NL), BB folds, next player calls, cut-off raises to $5, button calls and the action is to me. The pot is now 14.25 and I have 3.50 to call so I'm getting about 4-1 on my call what is the proper action here?

[Andy B]

I'd probably post this in the small-stakes no-limit section. How much do you have left, and how much does the cut-off have left? For that matter, how much does the third player have left? If you or the raiser are all-in or nearly so, you can definitely call because you have two cards to hit your full house. I probably call anyway, because a lot of players will wait to raise with a made flush. You probably have the best hand, and if you don't, you've got outs. If the money is deep, I think moving in is a viable option. Not that I play much NLHE or anything.

[Stork]

Without a read on the cutoff, I reraise that. He could easily be rasing with the Ace of Spades, or AK or K8 trying to protect his hand. How much to reraise depends on the stack sizes.

[dogmeat]

This is a very easy call since you have only $3.50 left in your stack. You do not really know that you need a full house to win. The raiser may well be on the nut-flush draw, or may have a strong king and underbet what he should have here. Hell, given the fact that this is a low-limit game, the player may have two pair or a pocket pair.

Now make it interesting. Say you have $25 in front of you. What do you do? Certainly you are not going to fold. Your chance to make the correct play here:

Call
Raise $5
Raise all-in

What important information are we missing before you make this decision, besides the players past history?

We need the other players stack sizes.

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[sourbeaver]

Similar story, not saying I made the correct play, but i banked over 150$ on that trips (50$ NL at Party).

Raised pot

Sour 3s 3h
+ 2 opponents

Flop 5s 3s 10s

(hmm, bad floppy floppy)

I bet the pot and get called (I'm 90% positive the guy as a fairly big ace, probably AT or AJ), other guy folds.

Turn : another spades (great .. my trips officially went to hell, i now have a very weak flush with my 3s). I check the turn, he checks.

River : rags (not spades). Now I wonder what's up. At that very moment, the guy who folded earlier reveals he held 2 spades and folded because he thought I had flopped flush ace high, making it that much more unlikely for my lone opponent to hold a spade. Now it is very possible that the guy still has a lone spade, but it's also fairly possible my opponent thinks I got him out-flushed, so I bet strong, representing the ace high flush. He called and revealed AT (top pair), and my weak flush won the 150$ pot.

[sourbeaver]

I like folding or reraising depending on stack sizes and your read on the opponent.

[AncientPC]

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Similar story, not saying I made the correct play, but i banked over 150$ on that trips (50$ NL at Party).

Raised pot

Sour 3s 3h
+ 2 opponents

Flop 5s 3s 10s

(hmm, bad floppy floppy)

I bet the pot and get called (I'm 90% positive the guy as a fairly big ace, probably AT or AJ), other guy folds.

Turn : another spades (great .. my trips officially went to hell, i now have a very weak flush with my 3s). I check the turn, he checks.

River : rags (not spades). Now I wonder what's up. At that very moment, the guy who folded earlier reveals he held 2 spades and folded because he thought I had flopped flush ace high, making it that much more unlikely for my lone opponent to hold a spade. Now it is very possible that the guy still has a lone spade, but it's also fairly possible my opponent thinks I got him out-flushed, so I bet strong, representing the ace high flush. He called and revealed AT (top pair), and my weak flush won the 150$ pot.

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I would've bet the turn to represent the A high flush.

[DyessMan89]

You flopped your set, the pot is huge, and you got 4-1 on your call. I dont see how you can lay it down.

I mean ... you come into the hand with a low pocket pair trying to make a set, I dont see why you would fold once youve accomplished that ... if you were planning on doing that why call with 66 pre-flop to begin with.