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Evan
10-10-2004, 02:53 AM
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls, Hero calls, UTG+2 folds, <font color="CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.33 SB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Button calls, BB calls, UTG calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, Button calls, BB folds, UTG calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP1 calls, Button calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (13.66 BB) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Button calls, UTG calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, Button calls, UTG calls, Hero calls.

River: (25.66 BB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 25.66 BB

After I didn't cap the turn I was really mad at myself. I'm pretty sure that was an easy value raise. My question is whether or not I should be worrying about someone having a bigger flush draw (mainly the players that kept coldcalling multiple bets) and how should I discount my outs accordingly?

StellarWind
10-10-2004, 09:46 AM
It is a mystery why everyone is putting up with this abuse.

I think the better flush draw possibility is valid and it could even be MP1. I'd also be concerned that 2 /images/graemlins/spade.gif and 6 /images/graemlins/spade.gif won't win because MP1 or some lurker has a set. Someone could also be splitting with our OESD.

Finally, there is always the possibility that someone will think of a reason to fold.

I don't think capping the turn for value is a big deal. It looks about neutral.

Alobar
10-10-2004, 10:53 AM
I hate when my OESFD doesnt come in /images/graemlins/frown.gif

I dont think there is anything wrong with not capping the turn. From the action it looks like you could possibly hit and still lose, so after you discount your outs a little bit, its prolly close to neutral