Key Hand #2: 1 table HU too loose of a call or...?

[Desdia72]

the guy had been going all-in about 3 out of the last 5 or 6 hands. we had been playing HU for awhile, me coming from the shortstack and playing even. i had won a few smaller pots at the showdown and got to see some really suspect holdings. i figured the guy was getting impatient and put him on a hand you would play when, 'you just wanna get it over with'. i was right, but as you see, it did'nt work out in the end. is this call to loose, despite my observation of his play, or.....[add your take on the hand].

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PokerStars Game #754995935: Tournament #2953655, Hold'em No Limit -
Level VIII (200/400) - 2004/10/08 - 23:33:36 (ET)
Table '2953655 1' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: artofmoney (6800 in chips)
Seat 9: Desdia72 (6700 in chips)
artofmoney: posts the ante 25
Desdia72: posts the ante 25
artofmoney: posts small blind 200
Desdia72: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Desdia72 [Qs Jd]
artofmoney: raises 6375 to 6775 and is all-in
Desdia72: calls 6275 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [Th 6c 8h]
*** TURN *** [Th 6c 8h] [2c]
*** RIVER *** [Th 6c 8h 2c] [7c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Desdia72: shows [Qs Jd] (high card Queen)
artofmoney: shows [Qd 6d] (a pair of Sixes)
artofmoney collected 13400 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 13400 | Rake 0
Board [Th 6c 8h 2c 7c]
Seat 2: artofmoney (button) (small blind) showed [Qd 6d] and won
(13400) with a pair of Sixes
Seat 9: Desdia72 (big blind) showed [Qs Jd] and lost with high card
Queen

[durron597]

You got in against a dominated hand. What are you complaining about?

[lastchance]

Eh... It's a fine call. You can probably lay it down, but that's a lot more questionable than calling with what he's been doing.

[Augie]

I don't like this call. The two of you are basically dead even in stack sizes, and deep enough to play a little poker.

You say he has been showing some questionable holdings and appears to be impatient. I think that is precisely the time to exercise some patience of your own.

You had him dominated on that hand, yes, but QJ is only Q high before the flop. You could make a case for calling with this hand if the stack size ratio was 3-1 (whether you are the small stack, or the big stack), but not when they are 1-1.

Look at it this way - he is impatient, he is splashing around; you are patient, you know how different hands match up versus each other, hot and cold. Advantage . . . you.

[betgo]

Rvrn if this guy is going allin with weak hands, QJ does not figure to be better than what he has.

[Desdia72]

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Rvrn if this guy is going allin with weak hands, QJ does not figure to be better than what he has.

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how do you figure? QJ is a favorite over many weaker hands.

[Desdia72]

[ QUOTE ]
You got in against a dominated hand. What are you complaining about?

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i'm not complaining about any thing. i asked if the my call was too loose, despite the fact that i was right on the type of hand he was pushing with?

[DyessMan89]

I dont like this call. QJ is fine hand, but when your going all-in with it with an opponent who has a similar stack of chips, its not very good. Even if he had 7,2 your QJ is only a 60-65% favorite. Putting all your chips on this hand isnt good, no matter who it is. Now ... if you were 4-1 or 5-1 in chips, sure why not. Also, if you were the short stack and you got a few people betting big, go all in because of your pot odds being so good and your stack size.

[shawn_p]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (2 handed)

Button (t6800)
Hero (t6700)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="CC3333">Button raises to t6775</font>, Hero calls t6275 (All-In).

Flop: (t13075) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t13075) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t13075) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t13075

[citanul]

I don't like this call. It's very possible your opponent has just had ok holding 3 of the last 5 hands, for one.

QJ just isn't a powerhouse against a whole lot of holdings. It is a significant (58%) favorite over a completely random hand, but only a 53% favorite over a set that throws out only a big pile of junk i chose at random (really bad junk). The blinds are still not ridiculous here, so I think I'd wait for a slighly better hand.

If you suspect he's going to continue this behavior, just wait for any pair, any king, or any ace. You're going ot have a better edge in those cases.

This QJ is just a little looser than I'd make the call. Clearly, it's just well, one notch lower than "every king," so it's close. I don't like being behind every hand with a king in it, basically /images/graemlins/smile.gif

citanul