Bad Run Checkup Pt. 2 - Overcards

[AtlChip10]

Hand #1 AJo UTG w/ 2 OCs & BDNFD

Reads: PF Raiser is LA-P (wide range)

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
Hero calls, <font color="666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Correct limp?

Flop: (6.50 SB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

2 overcards and BDNFD, standard call?

Turn: (4.75 BB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Lose BDNFD, gain gutshot, possible good overcard. Call or fold?

River: (7.75 BB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, BB folds, Hero folds.

He could have AK, or might have spiked a T or Q, good fold?

Final Pot: 8.75 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 7.75 BB, won by MP3.</font>
<font color="green">Pot 2: 1 BB, returned to MP3.</font>

Hand #2

Reads: Flop bettor is LP-P

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif. CO posts a blind of $2. MP3 posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 (poster) checks, CO (poster) checks, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

2 limpers, not great position, good limp?

Flop: (7 SB) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(7 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

2 clean overs, many behind to act, good fold or do I take one off?


Hand #3

Reads: River bettor is LP-P

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls.

Coordinated board, but I have position and would love a free card, standard bet?

Turn: (7.25 BB) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks.

Nothing doing

River: (7.25 BB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero folds, MP2 folds, CO calls.

Nothing, I showed weakness but pot isn't huge.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 9.25 BB, between UTG+1 and CO.</font>

[JinX11]

Hand 1 - AJo can be a bad hand UTG. Don't like limping with it UTG. It's a raise or a fold pre-flop.

After the flop, all of your outs are tainted. Fold the turn. Really, only 2 of the 4 kings are clean - not worth chasing for less than 5 BB. Obvious fold on river - you have nothing.

Hand #2 - Don't mind the limp. Don't mind the fold. If you're Chris Daddy Cool, you probably raise the flop here, though. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Hand #3 - Now see...this is better - raise AJo or fold it. Bet the turn. Maybe bet the river. They can't fold if you don't bet - you're representing something bigger than AJo; you were all along. If he calls a turn bet and I feel he's not gonna fold, then I check behind on the river.

[SparkyDog]

Raise PF in hand 1, but taking a card off on the flop isn't terrible, but I'd definitely fold the turn.

Hand 2 I raise pre-flop, the flop is pretty ragged, but since you say the flop bettor is passive the flop is a probable fold, given that the pot isn't huge and there's plenty of people to act behind you. I'm not real confident in my flop judgement though.

Hand 3 looks about how I'd play it.

[sublime]

hand 1:

I raise preflop. It has been debated before what is more +EV, and form what I understand its a deadlock. But I like raising, a lot :-)

As for the flop, its close. You cant give yourself six overcard outs and you cant discount them entirely either, also your BDNFD loses some value due to it being a one carder.

I would probably fold here bro.