Lurshy
10-08-2004, 01:18 PM
Since JJ seems to be a hot topic of late, I though I would post this hand from last nights $15 Paradise MTT.
There were (I think) about 700 players, Top 60 get paid. We are in the meaningless money (I think about ~45 left), I have about an average stack. The blind levels are moving up quickly (every 12 minutes), and even an average stack is under pressure. Play has loosened up a bit due to that fact, tempting blinds, and the recent passing of the bubble. Big stack at the table is one of the tourney leaders. Blinds are T1000/2000 T100 ante. With $4000 already in the pot at the deal, stealing is occuring when possible. I am CO-1.
I had been at this table for only a few rounds, but I had been with some of the players for much of the tournament (on earlier tables). I starter out very tight but aggressive playing few hands, but taking-down several hands in post flop play. I showed a Nut set in on hand (QQQ). I loosened mid-way and made a couple of questionable calls that I sucked out on. There are a few at the table that may have seen that, but if not my image should still be tight.
Game #609679053 - Tournament Coral - 1,000/2,000 No Limit Texas Hold'em - 2004/10/07-22:54:19
(CST)
Table "Coral 38" (MTT) -- Seat 6 is the button
Seat 2: PhiKappaPsi (26,234 in chips)
Seat 3: gambler1993 (33,006 in chips)
Seat 4: Lurshy (24,255 in chips)
Seat 5: Canary Leggs (13,557 in chips)
Seat 6: killerhand (17,312 in chips)
Seat 7: babyface2 (39,925 in chips)
Seat 8: shock & awe (12,607 in chips)
Seat 9: alvoid (57,307 in chips)
Seat 10: positano (19,379 in chips)
gambler1993: Ante (100)
Lurshy : Ante (100)
Canary Leggs: Ante (100)
killerhand: Ante (100)
babyface2: Ante (100)
shock & awe: Ante (100)
alvoid : Ante (100)
positano: Ante (100)
PhiKappaPsi: Ante (100)
babyface2: Post Small Blind (1,000)
shock & awe: Post Big Blind (2,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to Lurshy [ Js ]
Dealt to Lurshy [ Jh ]
alvoid : Fold
positano: Fold
PhiKappaPsi: Call (2,000)
gambler1993: Raise (6,000)
Lurshy : Raise (24,155)
UTG, & UTG+1 have folded MP1 has limped, and MP2 raised 3xBB. They both have me covered, but I pushed due to the following thinking:
I wanted to take down the pot. JJ multi-way isn't strong enough. If I just called, there would be about 3-1 pot odds for people behind me to call with, letting any two broadway cards or other hands into the pot behind me. If I raised the same as MP2 making it 12,000 to go I would be close to pot committed while giving him odds to call me.
I also like the idea that if I was called and was behind, I would get 5 cards to make a set, rather than possibly having to fold post flop and leaving myself in horrible shape.
My reads: Saw MP1 as wanting to see a flop cheap - weak play. I didn't expect a trap as open limping with a major PP is asking for trouble. I think He would have open raised a real hand. Small PP, or suited cards for him.
MP 2 I put on a steal or semi-steal (e.g. Ax small PP), the table was loosening slighlty (hence credit for sem-steal), the aggression looked oppourtunistic. With just limper in front of him, the raise looked suspicious. Am I just being optimistic? I did see him make probable steals on prior rounds. I am trying to think though if he had a real hand (AA-QQ, AK), would he play it different? maybe not.
So I pushed - figuring I was ahead, forcing a fold or call by weaker hand, and only risking CO, Button, SB, BB waking up with a serious PP.
What do you think of this play and logic? results later.
There were (I think) about 700 players, Top 60 get paid. We are in the meaningless money (I think about ~45 left), I have about an average stack. The blind levels are moving up quickly (every 12 minutes), and even an average stack is under pressure. Play has loosened up a bit due to that fact, tempting blinds, and the recent passing of the bubble. Big stack at the table is one of the tourney leaders. Blinds are T1000/2000 T100 ante. With $4000 already in the pot at the deal, stealing is occuring when possible. I am CO-1.
I had been at this table for only a few rounds, but I had been with some of the players for much of the tournament (on earlier tables). I starter out very tight but aggressive playing few hands, but taking-down several hands in post flop play. I showed a Nut set in on hand (QQQ). I loosened mid-way and made a couple of questionable calls that I sucked out on. There are a few at the table that may have seen that, but if not my image should still be tight.
Game #609679053 - Tournament Coral - 1,000/2,000 No Limit Texas Hold'em - 2004/10/07-22:54:19
(CST)
Table "Coral 38" (MTT) -- Seat 6 is the button
Seat 2: PhiKappaPsi (26,234 in chips)
Seat 3: gambler1993 (33,006 in chips)
Seat 4: Lurshy (24,255 in chips)
Seat 5: Canary Leggs (13,557 in chips)
Seat 6: killerhand (17,312 in chips)
Seat 7: babyface2 (39,925 in chips)
Seat 8: shock & awe (12,607 in chips)
Seat 9: alvoid (57,307 in chips)
Seat 10: positano (19,379 in chips)
gambler1993: Ante (100)
Lurshy : Ante (100)
Canary Leggs: Ante (100)
killerhand: Ante (100)
babyface2: Ante (100)
shock & awe: Ante (100)
alvoid : Ante (100)
positano: Ante (100)
PhiKappaPsi: Ante (100)
babyface2: Post Small Blind (1,000)
shock & awe: Post Big Blind (2,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to Lurshy [ Js ]
Dealt to Lurshy [ Jh ]
alvoid : Fold
positano: Fold
PhiKappaPsi: Call (2,000)
gambler1993: Raise (6,000)
Lurshy : Raise (24,155)
UTG, & UTG+1 have folded MP1 has limped, and MP2 raised 3xBB. They both have me covered, but I pushed due to the following thinking:
I wanted to take down the pot. JJ multi-way isn't strong enough. If I just called, there would be about 3-1 pot odds for people behind me to call with, letting any two broadway cards or other hands into the pot behind me. If I raised the same as MP2 making it 12,000 to go I would be close to pot committed while giving him odds to call me.
I also like the idea that if I was called and was behind, I would get 5 cards to make a set, rather than possibly having to fold post flop and leaving myself in horrible shape.
My reads: Saw MP1 as wanting to see a flop cheap - weak play. I didn't expect a trap as open limping with a major PP is asking for trouble. I think He would have open raised a real hand. Small PP, or suited cards for him.
MP 2 I put on a steal or semi-steal (e.g. Ax small PP), the table was loosening slighlty (hence credit for sem-steal), the aggression looked oppourtunistic. With just limper in front of him, the raise looked suspicious. Am I just being optimistic? I did see him make probable steals on prior rounds. I am trying to think though if he had a real hand (AA-QQ, AK), would he play it different? maybe not.
So I pushed - figuring I was ahead, forcing a fold or call by weaker hand, and only risking CO, Button, SB, BB waking up with a serious PP.
What do you think of this play and logic? results later.