Please;Please;Please HELP!!

[TJD]

I am in no doubt that I COULD play more hands and SHOULD play more hands. However I have no idea which ones to play.

I have been too tight in the BB. In the past week I have improved that by 5%. However since I get to see for free 50% of the time and I am in BB 0nly 1/5 of time on average, this only adds 0.5% to my VP$IP.

Despite that increase, my overall VP$IP is DOWN by 0.5% in that time in a run of 4000 hands when (due to a bit of luck for a change /images/graemlins/smile.gif) my BB/100 is 3.23

As a start to help me pinpoint my problems could folks please share their VP$IP by POSITION? It would be a great help. Hope you will help. Thanks.

Mine are:-

Button------19.37
1------------18.31
2------------15.20
3------------12.84
BB-----------14.99
SB-----------25.76

Overall------18.26 (My ATSB figure is 27.49)

Thanks all. I appreciate it.

trevor

[Guido]

Mine are:

Button:- 18.83
1-------- 16.20
2-------- 11.87
3-------- 11.55
BB------- 17.25
SB------- 30.22

Overall-- 18.50

This is after 86K

Since 1 October I don't play on auto-pilot anymore and I've changed my style. Results since then are:

Button:- 19.92
1-------- 18.18
2-------- 12.19
3-------- 10.53
BB------- 18.42
SB------- 31.77

Overall-- 19.48

Only 7K hands though.

I don't think there is much wrong with your number other than that you need to call a little more in the BB like you said.

Good luck,

Guido

[TJD]

Thx Guido. Didn't realise you were so tight /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Anyone else please?

trevor

[tj00]

These are 50K hands of 5/10 6 Max.

Disclaimer: My stats are probably too tight, but it seems to work for me.

Button: 16.96
1: 14.29
2: 13.82
3: 12.90
BB: 17.70
SB: 24.02

Overall: 17.08

[Peter_rus]

Mine filtered between 5 and 6 players on a table are

Button-24.12
CO-----21.68
UTG+1--17.89
UTG----14.10
BB-----28.96
SB-----38.83

OVRL---25.11

[fyodor]

I just checked mine and was shocked to see 33% on Button and 27% overall. I was like, WTF! When did I turn into such a LAG? Turns out I had another player selected. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Anyhow my real stats are:

Button 23.18
CO 19.34
MP 16.00
UTG 14.57
BB 26.77
SB 33.16
Overall 22.82

Filtered for 5/6 players 13,683 hands of 10/20

[Cleveland Guy]

If you are daring, and confident in your post flop play, here is a little "Game" you can play over your next 1K hands or so.

1. When in the Small Blinds - you should complete any time the pot is not raised with any 2.

2. In the BB, if the raise comes from anyone other than UTG - call if it's heads up with any 2. If it comes from the Button, call unless the SB 3-bets.

I would still raise normal raising hands, but you will be completing and defending with a lot more than you are used to. In fact - you will really be going to other way, and over defending. I know this sounds like -EV, but please hear me out.

From the SB, there are many hands that can be completed, escpically when 2 or more ahead of you have limped. There are now 4 of you in the pot, so you just put in a bet of 1/8 the pot. Even hands that aren't 8-1 will pay you off much bigger in the long run that it makes up for it.

From the BB, you start to realize what other hands are good for blind defense. I know many people throw something like T8 away to 1 raise in the BB. But if you are confident and agressive with your post flop play, if the flop comes out Q82 against 1 opponent who PFR, you will be ahead more times than you think.

If you can stomach this over 1K hands, you should have a good feel for some extra hands to add to your BB and SB Defense. Then scale back to your normal hands plus your new ones, and see what happens.

[stripsqueez]

160,000 hands filtered for 5/6 players

button 21.95
cutoff 17.58
UTG+1 15.40
UTG 12.85
BB 31.18
SB 35.69

total 23.53

my more recent numbers the VP$IP is higher than 23.53

stripsqueez - chickenhawk

[fsuplayer]

after about 45k hands at 5/10 and 10/20:

button:24.97
Co:20.18
MP:18.8
UTG:16.43
BB:20.79
SB:34.26

total: 23.1%



fsuplayer

[TJD]

Thanks for replying guys. Small sample of course but the early indications are that the biggest culprit for me is the Small Blind, followed by BB and Button in that order. The other 3 seats are about the "norm" although I am fractionally tighter than the average.

Any other figures please? A bigger sample would be very useful. At the end I will post averages.

Thanks all

trevor

[DyessMan89]

Where do you guys get these stats? Sorry for the stupid question but Im lost.

[TJD]

In Poker Tracker under the Position Stats tab

trevor

[kiddo]

[ QUOTE ]
button 21.95
cutoff 17.58
UTG+1 15.40
UTG 12.85
BB 31.18
SB 35.69

[/ QUOTE ]

Have the same stats, but a little more lose UTG (3% - same as UTG+1 /images/graemlins/blush.gif)... also much less in BB, but my stats are mostly 5/10 and some 10/20, guess that u defend a little more if table is a little tighter, headsup a lot of hands are pretty ok. OR maybe I should defend more OR maybe I should raise more, trying to take control of pot. I win about the same from all positions (0.11BB/h), except UTG+1, where I win a little less.