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Matt24
10-07-2004, 02:34 AM
Ebay Auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&?ViewItem&item=6931145716)

Has anyone seen this crap? I sent this guy a question through the auction pretty much telling him he is dumb. Wondering if any of you guys have ever seen this or bought it just to see what this idiot is claiming?

edfurlong
10-07-2004, 03:02 AM
For only thirty bucks how can you afford not to buy this?

"This book does not tell you magically how to know what cards other players have. It's value comes in recognizing the repeating winning "pay out" cycles of Party Poker regardless of what cards other players have."

[censored] it I'm sold!

Michael Davis
10-07-2004, 03:06 AM
Note that this guy has 100% positive feedback, with many players claiming the book contained "great information."

I love it how people here refuse to accept that this thing might be rigged even in the face of overwhelming evidence, like the ten or so posts a day made by great players who have seen the light.

-Michael

Bob Bryant
10-07-2004, 03:29 AM
Interesting, the same guy selling this book is also selling www.Levitrawholesale.com. (http://www.Levitrawholesale.com.) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11153&item=5724364 699&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW


....interesting

jimymat
10-07-2004, 04:28 AM
Online poker is the biggest scam since.....online poker.Why get angry and call the guy an idiot. We our all just puppets in the the big world of random number generators. The only thing random about online poker is the number of suckers they pull in each day. I use to be one of there drones untill I reached around the back of my head and unplugged the cord. Why is it so unreasonable to imagine that flops come out a certain way to induce action. You keep sending in money cause that guy only had a 2 outer that he hit. In the mean time youve done a player search for the past month to find him cause hes such a fish but for some reason hes never there. hmmmm. Why would they want so many people to hit the flop. The difference between a little rake and a big rake. Now ask your self if you lived off shore and no one was there to regulate you would you program a NSRNG (not so random number generator) to induce a larger rake. If the answers no, than your a liar, but it does not matter cause theres a lot of people that would, and do not have a problem taking your money. By the way the weathers great down here in Costa Rico and thanks for the down payment on my 4th mansion I just bought oceanside. Just trying to open your eyes to the fact that maybe sometimes things just are not what they seem. Bring on the responses to this one.

jasonHoldEm
10-07-2004, 04:45 AM
Someone (granny I think) purchased it and posted it in the zoo...this was several months ago. It was rather hilarious reading if you want to do a search.

J

lacky
10-07-2004, 04:48 AM
Why bother responding? You just spent 5 min. to say what has been said 100's of times already by losing online players like yourself. And yes, I realize you KILL the game live, so of coarse it's rigged online. It's elementary Watson.

Matt24
10-07-2004, 04:57 AM
Jimmy- is that all sarcasm? I wasnt angry when I called the guy an idiot.

waffle
10-07-2004, 05:33 AM
Pretty easy to prove that this book is bunk without knowing anything about the 'rigging' specifics, as long as we assume the seller is a rational agent (economist's definition).

If the book works, one can make approximately MAD CASH by exploiting Party Poker, provided one has read the book.

The seller has read the book.

The seller wants to maximize his profits.

The seller chooses to use his time to sell these books for piddly amounts of money instead of exploiting Party Poker.

Therefore, the book is full of bunk. QED.

kickingit
10-07-2004, 08:17 AM
i like how he talked about play chips and not live money, for 30$ who would not like to have 60,000,000 play chips, it may not make u rich but u can feel like. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

sourbeaver
10-07-2004, 10:18 AM
So anybody bought this book already ?
For 30 bucks the matter could already be settled.
If no one has, then I just might so the BS can end.

Greg J
10-07-2004, 10:27 AM
Is it just me, or have the people on this board gotten considerably dumber over the past few weeks?

fnord_too
10-07-2004, 10:31 AM
My favorite part is "Win Hundreds at Home".

SpiderMnkE
10-07-2004, 10:32 AM
“As a Poker Pro who has actually played with Rob(author of Party Poker Cracked) and seen him first hand dominate the poker table I could have guaranteed this book would help you even before reading it. Like a select few of other pro's Rob sent me his book for my input. It was amazing.. This guy can do what other Poker players can't ... WRITE!!!!!!! This book is the mind of a online poker player mapped out...”

- Phil H.


Apparently Hellmuth approves of the book. This testimonial came from the website PartyPokerCracked.com

I've already ordered my copy

nykenny
10-07-2004, 10:42 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Note that this guy has 100% positive feedback, with many players claiming the book contained "great information."

I love it how people here refuse to accept that this thing might be rigged even in the face of overwhelming evidence, like the ten or so posts a day made by great players who have seen the light.

-Michael

[/ QUOTE ]

if online poker sites are rigged, they must have been rigged to my favor.

Kenny

nykenny
10-07-2004, 10:46 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Is it just me, or have the people on this board gotten considerably dumber over the past few weeks?

[/ QUOTE ]

it's just you.

the sites are so obviously rigged, and that is why i am playing! otherwise it'd be too hard for me to win!

Kenny

Sponger15SB
10-07-2004, 12:26 PM
[ QUOTE ]
“As a Poker Pro who has actually played with Rob(author of Party Poker Cracked) and seen him first hand dominate the poker table I could have guaranteed this book would help you even before reading it. Like a select few of other pro's Rob sent me his book for my input. It was amazing.. This guy can do what other Poker players can't ... WRITE!!!!!!! This book is the mind of a online poker player mapped out...”

- Phil H.


Apparently Hellmuth approves of the book. This testimonial came from the website PartyPokerCracked.com

I've already ordered my copy

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't see Hellmuth's approval, only a "Phil H."

hehehe, good thinking on that sites part.

I Play 2 Ski
10-07-2004, 12:47 PM
its just part of the 2+2 RITG(Random Idiot Troll Generator) To keep the post count high and generate Ad revenue

Greg J
10-07-2004, 02:05 PM
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its just part of the 2+2 RITG(Random Idiot Troll Generator) To keep the post count high and generate Ad revenue

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HAHA! Sweet!

jedi
10-07-2004, 02:24 PM
You know, at one time I thought about putting together a word document about "How to beat the Pattern Mappers" and try to sell it on eBay. But then my conscience got the better of me.

bonanz
10-07-2004, 04:27 PM
http://www.nd.edu/~vkoppers/PPCRACKED11.pdf

Pirc Defense
10-07-2004, 04:39 PM
[ QUOTE ]
My favorite part is "Win Hundreds at Home".

[/ QUOTE ]

Beautiful. The smallest things can make me laugh so hard.

fearme
10-07-2004, 04:49 PM
have u ever won in poker?? and why u always putting my posts down

jgorham
10-07-2004, 05:21 PM
I would have thought it impossible to teach my opponents to fold pocket A's or K's preflop when I raise into them, but I never thought of charging them to learn... how could i be so foolish?

bonanz
10-07-2004, 05:23 PM
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how could i be so foolish?

[/ QUOTE ]

if you aren't folding those hands preflop you're leaking money out of your ass

waffle
10-07-2004, 05:28 PM
[ QUOTE ]
I would have thought it impossible to teach my opponents to fold pocket A's or K's preflop when I raise into them, but I never thought of charging them to learn... how could i be so foolish?

[/ QUOTE ]

Exactly, after reading the guide.. this guy could be a lot tricker than what we're giving him credit for /images/graemlins/smile.gif

CORed
10-07-2004, 05:32 PM
The obvious question to ask is if this guy has really found out how to predict the cards, why is he selling the system instead of playing it?

CORed
10-07-2004, 05:34 PM
For some reason, the idiots are posting here instead of on the Internet Forum, where these kinds of posts have been routine for a long time. This forum is becoming "Zoo 2".

junkmail3
10-07-2004, 05:45 PM
I like the part where I throw my Aces on the table face up and raise.

"EX: You flop AA and bet $5 ... "
(page 6, paragraph 3)

sourbeaver
10-07-2004, 05:59 PM
From the book:

"I play a lot of $100 no limit on PARP and the players are of a different
caliber. Regardless, one night I dropped $600 in 30 minutes. Here’s what
happened. In 10 consecutive hands I had AA 4 times KK 2 times QQ 1 time
and JJ one time, A,Ks and A,K. Every hand lost and 6 of those times it was
to a lower pocket pair that flopped a set or caught a flush meaning 4 suited
cards on the 5 card layout!"


hmm .. let's see .. err ... YEAH RIGHT !

CORed
10-07-2004, 06:00 PM
If you don't want to relearn how to play poker, there is an obvious solution. Nearly all of the folks running Poker Tracker are reporting that Aces win 75-80%. The only logical way to explain this, when we know that aces lose 80% on Party, is that Party's client has a "Poker Tracker detector",. which sends a message to the server to turn of the rigged deal if a player with Poker Tracker is at the table. This was clearly implemented to keep Party from getting caught rigging the deal. So, it looks like if you want to be a winning player on Party, you either have to buy and play the "Party Poker Cracked" system, or buy Poker Tracker, and play correctly.
/images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/laugh.gif /images/graemlins/wink.gif

sourbeaver
10-07-2004, 06:01 PM
That thing is pretty much a ripoff poker book with some BS about algorithms at the end..

Cashcow
10-07-2004, 06:01 PM
I noticed that too.
I wonder who proofred this GREAT Book? Also, most of what this guy is talking about is typical play in my opinion. If there is a ton of action on your raise and all you have is one pair with a three flush on the board, I would fold too.

junkmail3
10-07-2004, 06:10 PM
This is for no limit though. I would like to see how AA holds up in no limit.

It probably matters what A's you have though, different combinations win different %'s.

sourbeaver
10-07-2004, 06:13 PM
Reading this book has been the funniest thing. Here's another example:

"Again, these patterns only seem to work in a Table with 8-10 players.
This book is not about heads up or playing with just 3 or 4 players."

Oh so now PartyPoker ONLY rigs 10-seated tables ? great...

THE FAMOUS ALGORITHM:

The funniest BS I've ever read .. he's pretty much saying the cycle can go like this:

WLLLLLLLLLW
or
WLLLLLLLLW
or
WLLLLLLLW
or
WLW or WLLW or WLLLW or WLLLLW or ..

Anybody seeing something wrong here ?
He goes on to list a bunch more "cycles" of win-lose which
(I'm surprised he hasn't discovered that with his awesome knowledge and wisdom and analysis and what not..
) will make for a random cycle because that's all he ever gets to prove !

Party Poker Cracked basically shows anyone with a brain (be it in a retarded manner) that Party Poker is NOT rigged and is indeed random. Spend a couple minutes to read this humorous bunch of words. I'll keep laughing my way to the bank, playing poker as I always have, on Party or not, without the "help" of some guy who is undoubtedly good at making money selling junk, but it is just that : junk.

Glitchh
10-07-2004, 07:56 PM
Thanks for posting a link to this fine work. One of the most valuable nuggets the author offers is a classification of starting Hold 'Em hands into 8 Groups. I'm sure the revolutionary "Eagle Rankings" will become the defacto standard of starting hand evaluation from this point forward.

Also, don't let the small size of the Book fool you. I read this on my notebook during a single session on the toilet but will apply what I learned many times over at the tables (folding my large pocket pairs, for example.)

DrNo888
10-07-2004, 08:22 PM
I am gonna advertise this when I play. Hopefully, enough fish will buy this book and allow me to raise preflop every hand so they all can fold their high pocket pairs. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Michael Davis
10-07-2004, 08:29 PM
Fearme,

I put your posts down because you are a joke and liar.

I see you live in CA. So do I. Perhaps we can arrange a heads up match at whatever stakes (10-20 or above) you would like up to 100-200. We can do this online if you prefer. PM me, or post it here. If you want to play online, I'd prefer to play at Party, but will also play at Ultimate Bet or Pokerstars.

I just hope I get to you before your entire bankroll is gone.

And, if you don't understand why I am bashing you, you need to examine your posts and try to figure out what others might take from them. There are many instances where you reveal yourself to be a moron who has little clue about playing poker. You are more interested with spouting about how you play 40-80 or somesuch "high" stakes. Great. Maybe you have been winning. That leaves more money for me when we play this match.

-Michael

Michael Davis
10-07-2004, 08:32 PM
Look, Party Poker would not cycle the same for every player as that would be too obvious. Also, I'm pretty sure they just randomly select some players to be winners even if they have no connection to Party Poker and no matter how they play. This makes things look good, as these winning players defend the site everywhere.

The fact that the author has outlined the complexity of the cycles adds to his credibility.

-Michael

jimymat
10-07-2004, 09:30 PM
Brillant. I guess it is pretty far fetched. I take back everything I said. Good reply Greg. I look forward to more of them. Thanks.

Freudian
10-07-2004, 10:32 PM
What if the guy is simply wanting to create worse opponents for himself? I mean, telling people to fold AA-QQ for a 1$ bet unless they flop a set it a brilliant way to make your own opponents waste their premium hands.

And for a guy that suspects the site turn on him once he doubles-triples his buy-in, why doesn't he simply leave the table once he does that and start again?

Yobz
10-07-2004, 10:49 PM
This is the best book I have ever read. I am throwing super system and SSH out the window, this is now my bible. I get pocket aces, folding them...even if I'm in the BB, fear the flush!

josh1122
10-07-2004, 11:20 PM
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I am gonna advertise this when I play. Hopefully, enough fish will buy this book and allow me to raise preflop every hand so they all can fold their high pocket pairs. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

LMAO Great idea. This "book" makes me feel all nice inside. I hope it catches on. (Even though i don't play NL)

mmbt0ne
10-07-2004, 11:23 PM
Who knew my
WLLWLWWLLLWLLWLLWLLWWLLWLLLLWLLLLWLLLLL
LLLLLLWLLWLLLLLWLLWLLLLLLLWWWLLLLLWLWLW
pattern was actually a pattern and not just random, I can see the obvious layout know thanks to this book. Sometimes I win after I lose, sometimes I lose after I lose, sometimes I win after I win, and sometimes I lose after I win. Phew, time to go make money.

Mayhap
10-07-2004, 11:37 PM
Levitra, that's a pre-flop enhancer right?
/M

Nottom
10-07-2004, 11:39 PM
Yeah I remember this being posted a while back. The most memorable part was when he was talking about folding AA preflop whenever anyone bet more than $5.

AncientPC
10-08-2004, 01:22 AM
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Yeah I remember this being posted a while back. The most memorable part was when he was talking about folding AA preflop whenever anyone bet more than $5.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, but at the same time he's willing to call a $3 bet with Axs!

adanthar
11-13-2004, 11:36 PM
Bumping this because it's now an ESPN sponsored link (ad) under many of their stories.

I love this man and his website. God bless you, good sir.

Evan
11-14-2004, 02:34 AM
Who among you has won $60,000,000 PLAY MONEY???????

I don't see anyone raising their hands.

tek
11-14-2004, 10:44 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Pretty easy to prove that this book is bunk without knowing anything about the 'rigging' specifics, as long as we assume the seller is a rational agent (economist's definition).

If the book works, one can make approximately MAD CASH by exploiting Party Poker, provided one has read the book.

The seller has read the book.

The seller wants to maximize his profits.

The seller chooses to use his time to sell these books for piddly amounts of money instead of exploiting Party Poker.

Therefore, the book is full of bunk. QED.

[/ QUOTE ]

Geez, I hope Sklansky and Malmuth didn't read your post... /images/graemlins/grin.gif