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gabyyyyy

10-06-2004, 02:19 PM

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This will support four games no overlap? Is there anyone that can talk me out of getting this? Gabbyyyy?

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Seems like a good deal to me. I have the Dell E173P( 17" link (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-3997&category_id=4009)) which is the 17" Lcd. I paid around 330 with free shipping, I think the one you are looking at is almost double that.

I can't justify paying double the price. for only 2 or 3 more inches.

Furthermore, 20 inches is just way too big for me considering how close I sit to the monitor.

ode

10-06-2004, 02:20 PM

I like my new Viewsonic VP201b.

And yes, 1600x1200 TFT is the way to go... but hey, if you aren't poor, might as well get for excample 23" HP widescreen with 1900x1200 resolution..

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CT11

10-06-2004, 03:06 PM

I have a 2001fp and It's great for multi tabling.
I bought mine to do work on and later found out its great for poker.

~CT11

junkmail3

10-06-2004, 03:08 PM

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This will support four games no overlap? Is there anyone that can talk me out of getting this? Gabbyyyy?

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Seems like a good deal to me. I have the Dell E173P( 17" link (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-3997&category_id=4009)) which is the 17" Lcd. I paid around 330 with free shipping, I think the one you are looking at is almost double that.

I can't justify paying double the price. for only 2 or 3 more inches.

Furthermore, 20 inches is just way too big for me considering how close I sit to the monitor.

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This isn't 1600x1200 res though.

gabyyyyy

10-06-2004, 03:32 PM

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This isn't 1600x1200 res though.

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Nope.. I don't need that resolution. I don't have the need to play 4 tables at a time.

junkmail3

10-06-2004, 03:39 PM

Which, is fine. I was just pointing out the title of the post.

sprmario

10-06-2004, 03:41 PM

Great site for reviews:

http://www.anandtech.com/displays/

Huskiez

10-06-2004, 06:41 PM

Ordered a 2001 FP today.

Damn Chicago tax.

theredpill

10-07-2004, 09:52 AM

I got a Compaq 17 inch 7550 for like $130 and it is 1600 x 1200 res and I can turn that puppy all the way up to 1600 x 1200 and fit as many tables in there as I want it looks like. Its nice but I decided one table is enough for now but just passing on the info man.

ihaterivers

10-07-2004, 10:01 AM

Why not just get yourself a nice 19" crt monitor for around $100 or so(I just got a 19" kds flat screen 1600 x 1200 resolution for under $80 after rebates) and invest that $500+ you just saved on a product that will not hold value and will only last a few years.

Lebronomania

10-07-2004, 03:12 PM

Unless you absolutely need a light-weight monitor, its foolish to buy anything other than a CRT. CRTs are better than LCDs in every catagory, 'cept size and energy consumption. I just bought a 21" CRT, res 2048 x 1536, for $430 from Amazon, free shipping. Its a monster, for sure, but I can fit 9 tables on the screen with very little overlap. Cha-ching.

To get the same resolution in an LCD, I woulda had to pay over $2000.

junkmail3

10-07-2004, 03:19 PM

What monitor/where?

ode

10-07-2004, 03:36 PM

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CRTs are better than LCDs in every catagory, 'cept size and energy consumption.

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Not true. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

prrthd

10-07-2004, 04:42 PM

If a 21" CRT is too big for you try this one Viewsonic (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=24-116-219&depa=0)

It will do 2048x1536 also for about half the price. Plus if you do any gaming it is a truly beautiful monitor for that as well.

Lebronomania

10-07-2004, 09:24 PM

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CRTs are better than LCDs in every catagory, 'cept size and energy consumption.

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Not true. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

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Yes, its true. Snap.

ihaterivers

10-08-2004, 01:34 AM

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What monitor/where?

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I got a kds 19" flat screen from office depot last week when they had their 18th anniversary sale. The list price was 199 and they took 20 off for the sale, then I found an online coupon for 30 more off and they 2 rebates that totaled $80. price I will pay after rebates is just under $80 which IMO is a great deal. I found this deal at www.slickdeals.net. (http://www.slickdeals.net.) That site has cost me so much money but sometimes deals like this are too good to pass up. They cost me another 800 this morning when they posted some great dell laptops for about $800 after $500 instant discount and $200 mail in rebate. I got the 700m(intel centrino 1.6 256mb ram, wireless, 12.1 inch wide screen, and under 5lbs) for $808 after rebates shipped. Unreal deal.

Jman28

10-08-2004, 04:11 AM

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CRTs are better than LCDs in every catagory, 'cept size and energy consumption.

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Not true. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

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Yes, its true. Snap.

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No. It's not.

MMMMMM

10-08-2004, 04:32 AM

No, it's not true.

CRT's emit radiation, and the glare is much harder on the eyes, even when using an anti-glare device.

You can stare from close range at an LCD longer than you can at a CRT or a TV. Snap.

ihaterivers

10-08-2004, 05:26 AM

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You can stare from close range at an LCD longer than you can at a CRT or a TV. Snap.

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Snap????? Are you kidding me. Are you 12 or something? I haven't heard that in years. Talk all you want about lcd's, but if you want to shell out 600+ for one that probably wont even work in 5 years go right ahead. If you want the best value for your money go ahead and get you a crt. I mean I just bought a brand new dell 700m laptop for a little over $100 more than the 20 inch flat planel everyone seems to love. If you got money to burn go ahead and get the lcd because I'm sure they are wonderful to have but if all you are after is a monitor that supports 1600 x 1200 resolution so you can play 4 tables with no overlap then why waste that extra 500 when I'm sure there are a lot of other things that you can find to do with that money.

MMMMMM

10-08-2004, 07:12 AM

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Snap????? Are you kidding me. Are you 12 or something? I haven't heard that in years.

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I had never heard or used "Snap" until Lebronomania used it in the post directly above mine. Did you miss that somehow or something?

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Talk all you want about lcd's, but if you want to shell out 600+ for one that probably wont even work in 5 years go right ahead. If you want the best value for your money go ahead and get you a crt. I mean I just bought a brand new dell 700m laptop for a little over $100 more than the 20 inch flat planel everyone seems to love. If you got money to burn go ahead and get the lcd because I'm sure they are wonderful to have but if all you are after is a monitor that supports 1600 x 1200 resolution so you can play 4 tables with no overlap then why waste that extra 500 when I'm sure there are a lot of other things that you can find to do with that money.

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If you'll notice, I was rebutting Lebronomania's claim that "CRT's are better in every way". As I pointed out, they aren't better in EVERY way.

Whether the extra $ is worth it to you is a different matter.

By the way my 2x Dell 2001FP's totally blow away my 19" CRT, and that CRT supports 1600x1200 also. But I can understand if you don't think the extra money is worth it. My wallet might agree with you, but my eyes don't.

player1

10-08-2004, 11:20 AM

damn! the dell coupon code expired! i'm such a slacker! in any event, thanks NEinstein, for the info.

are there any other dell coupons/deals out there? i'd prefer dealing with dell but as long as they can be trusted it'll be ok.

thank you very much,
jc

sprmario

10-08-2004, 11:28 AM

just wait a week or two there will be another good coupon. Keep watch on dell.com and slickdeals.net

player1

10-08-2004, 11:33 AM

i've seen the $7xx deal from dell. are you saying they sometimes advertise a deal/coupon for $6xx? if so, how do i find it?

thank you,
jc

sprmario

10-08-2004, 11:47 AM

www.slickdeals.net (http://www.slickdeals.net) you can just scroll down and see that there have been 3 deals in the last 3 weeks on this monitor.

Benjamin

10-08-2004, 04:23 PM

I thought about getting the Dell, but decided to save some bucks and got a used IBM P275 for $200 (+ $50 shipping) from a reliable merchant on EBay w/ 3 year warranty. It's a 21" CRT, 20" viewable, resolution goes over 1920 by 1440, but everything was a little too tiny, so I leave it at the recommended 1600x1200. It's got a zillion adjustments possible, .24 dot pitch, anti-glare coating, Energy Star rating, Sony Trinitron flat screen tube, DVI input, etc ...

I'm happy with my choice and like the extra $500 in my pocket. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif Seems like these are common on the used market now, $200 was on the low end of prices I saw. It came with a couple of little nicks but in pretty darn good shape.

Also common is the P260, which uses a little more juice but otherwise seems mostly similar, while priced a little cheaper usually.

B.

gmunny

10-08-2004, 04:36 PM

I also heard somewhere that LCD's are eaiser on the eyes than CRT's. Staring at a computer sceen all day long is bad for your eyes.
G$

bonanz

10-08-2004, 06:15 PM

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I got a kds 19" flat screen from office depot last week when they had their 18th anniversary sale. The list price was 199 and they took 20 off for the sale......

Talk all you want about lcd's, but if you want to shell out 600+ for one that probably wont even work in 5 years go right ahead. If you want the best value for your money go ahead and get you a crt. ....

If you got money to burn go ahead and get the lcd because I'm sure they are wonderful to have but if all you are after is a monitor that supports 1600 x 1200 resolution so you can play 4 tables with no overlap then why waste that extra 500 when I'm sure there are a lot of other things that you can find to do with that money.

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i bought that same kds monitor and its a piece of crap at 1600x1200.

It works fine, but really the trade offs of desk real estate, energy (okay i don't really care that much about that), and ease on the eyes. I have been using it almost 2 weeks and threw caution (and some dough) to wind and picked up the Dell with a good coupon.

The HUGER viewable area from "that 600$ monitor everyone loves" is another advantage also over the 19 in crt. now you can argue that you can get 21in+ crts but then the cost is getting up in the range of the dell (with good coupons). Also the monitor is just a good investment for the extra dough. Even if you never play poker again you have a great monitor at a good price that you will enjoy for years to come.

ihaterivers

10-09-2004, 06:45 AM

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i bought that same kds monitor and its a piece of crap at 1600x1200

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Sorry to hear that. I have had 0 problems running mine at 1600 x 1200.. I specifically bought this for being able to play 4 tables with no overlap and it does what I ask. I never was saying that this was the greatest monitor in the world, but it does what I need. If you are having issues maybe you need take it back. you can pay 650+ for a monitor if you like, but I personally feel that it is way overpriced considering I just got a new dell 700m laptop from dell for $808 after rebates.

ihaterivers

10-09-2004, 06:49 AM

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damn! the dell coupon code expired! i'm such a slacker! in any event, thanks NEinstein, for the info.

are there any other dell coupons/deals out there? i'd prefer dealing with dell but as long as they can be trusted it'll be ok.

thank you very much,
jc

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Just keep looking at sites such as www.fatwallet.com (http://www.fatwallet.com), www.xpbargains.com (http://www.xpbargains.com), www.techbargains.com (http://www.techbargains.com), or www.slickdeals.net (http://www.slickdeals.net) among others for all the latest and greatest deals on this monitor along with lots of other stuff. Most of these sites should have the latest deals from dell since they are dell affiliates. You have to check often because some deals may only last so many uses or only for a short period of time. I just purchased a dell 700m that was 1508 - 500 instant coupon code -200 mail in rebate for a total of 808 shipped but this deal only lasted maybe half a day due to the overwhelming response dell received.

GuyOnTilt

10-09-2004, 07:45 AM

Since nobody's mentioned it yet, Samsung's SyncMaster 213T is nice. Over an inch bigger than Dell's equivalent, which is easier on the eyes when runner at 16x12. The color is much better than Dell's as well as the viewing angle. It has a 9ms higher latency though. If latency is more important to you than the other features, get the 2001. If you're willing to spend a couple extra hundred for the other features, get the SyncMaster. I'm very happy with my two.

GoT

Blarg

10-09-2004, 03:36 PM

The colors I've seen on it look much, much better compared to the Dell.

bonanz

10-09-2004, 04:01 PM

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Sorry to hear that. I have had 0 problems running mine at 1600 x 1200.. I specifically bought this for being able to play 4 tables with no overlap and it does what I ask. I never was saying that this was the greatest monitor in the world, but it does what I need. If you are having issues maybe you need take it back. you can pay 650+ for a monitor if you like, but I personally feel that it is way overpriced considering I just got a new dell 700m laptop from dell for $808 after rebates.

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it's funny you mention it because i actually did take it back last night. it did everything i need as well, it fit 4 tables no overlap, but i really think a nice monitor is an investment and the dells are well worth it. the syncmasters are very nice as well. but i have never seen them for anywhere near <700 bucks.... so see i care about price too /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Uston

10-09-2004, 04:04 PM

Does anyone here have a 1920x1440 CRT? If so, how many tables can you fit on the screen at one time?

GuyOnTilt

10-09-2004, 04:34 PM

Does anyone here have a 1920x1440 CRT? If so, how many tables can you fit on the screen at one time?

Poker tables are 800x600. Do the math.

GoT

GuyOnTilt

10-09-2004, 04:37 PM

The colors I've seen on it look much, much better compared to the Dell.

They are. There's a reason it's a couple hundred more than the Dell. It's a much better monitor for non-gamers. I'm not that concerned with viewing angle, but the fact that the colors are much better and it's over an inch larger are pretty significant to me. Silver looks better than black too.

GoT

Benjamin

10-09-2004, 07:36 PM

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Does anyone here have a 1920x1440 CRT? If so, how many tables can you fit on the screen at one time?

Poker tables are 800x600. Do the math.

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Well, it's not so clear cut. I used to occasionally 4-table at 1027x780 /images/graemlins/tongue.gif Parking in the each of the 4 corners

My IBM P275 21" CRT runs up to 1920x1440 (and I think it goes higher with the custom drivers that I haven't installed yet). It looks like without much attention to seat selection you could 6 table pretty comfortably. And that would leave a strip down the middle or side for a few small windows. 4 games would be fully visible, and the buttons also fully visible. The other two would have a little more than 1/2 the table visible, and the buttons visible. Chat box is obscured on all tables at times, and is always offscreen on the bottom 2.

I've been getting this monitor tuned in, and it has very rich color. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

B.

Benjamin

10-09-2004, 08:45 PM

I should add that there are the significant downsides to the 21" crt of it being huge, heavy, and using significantly more energy than the LCD. The dang thing practically fills my desk. But I think it does rank high on the utility/cost scale. 85 Hz refresh rate means it should be a good gaming monitor.

I looked into health issues since the CRT does put out more radiation, and found lots of hype, but no solid evidence showing health effects from using a CRT for work.

B.