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PFrese
10-05-2004, 12:52 PM
Here is the set up - I am playing in a $20 sit-n-go, home game. 7 players. Most guys do not have a clue, play any 2 cards, have to be reminded to post, not sure what hand beats what. Generally, incredibly weak. They play for fun not to win (a concept withwhich I am unfamiliar /images/graemlins/wink.gif). OK, not that you know all of that, the most clueless of them all is sitting to my right. He and I are in a hand together heads up. He is the dealer on the hand. I have crap, but I put him on crap and move all in ( it would have taken almost all of his stack to call)as a bluff (huge mistake I know, given that he clueless). He thinks for a little bit and then folds. I place me cards face down on the muck. As he is reaching for the muck, he lifts my two cards and looks at them to see what I had!! /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

I immediately told him that he can not look at my cards if he does not call the bet. He responded with words about how he can look if wants to because he is holding the cards. At this point most of the table rallies around me and tells him that he can't do that. After we have a couple words (not very nice ones) he apologizes saying that he does not know better. I believe 100% THAT THIS GUY DID NOT KNOW WHAT HE DID WAS WRONG!

My question - what would you do? Would you jump his stuff, would you say something nicely later, would you do nothing since you know that he is not smart enough to use the information, would you make him show the whole table so that you get some advertising? What would you do?

Thanks!

PF

meep_42
10-05-2004, 01:24 PM
You were fine. Inform him of his breach of etiquitte/rules and move on.

-d

coyote
10-05-2004, 01:30 PM
you said yourself you believe it was an innocent mistake. tell him the rules and move on to the next hand.

casinogosain
10-05-2004, 04:16 PM
You were correct - move on. In the future, against this player, be more inclined to move in with your strong hands rather than slowplaying. He may be more likely to call you now.

-Ash

warewulf
10-05-2004, 06:46 PM
Since it's the first time, let it slide. If he pulls the same BS again, I would be tempted to break a couple fingers! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Not necessairly in this situation, but I believe people should have to pay for their f*ck ups -- misdealing costs a buck, etc. 3 strikes and your out -- after the 3rd misdeal, NO MORE DEALING for the rest of the night.

Warewulf

RollaJ
10-05-2004, 07:44 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Most guys do not have a clue, play any 2 cards, have to be reminded to post

[/ QUOTE ]

Dont bite the hands that feed you /images/graemlins/grin.gif

jimymat
10-06-2004, 03:19 AM
Lifes to short, let it go.

TN_POKER_MAN
03-02-2005, 05:08 PM
Ask Johnny.

Johnny5
03-02-2005, 05:21 PM
He would have, but he's since died of old age.

J5

TN_POKER_MAN
03-02-2005, 05:57 PM
I did not know that. How did he die?

mrmookid
03-02-2005, 06:09 PM
A long time friend did this to me once when I pushed him all-in pre-flop. He folded and I started collecting the chips when he turned my two cards up. I looked at him and told him to NEVER, EVER DO THAT AGAIN. He tried defending what he did and I finally said "Look, it's wrong. If you do that one more time I won't play in a game with you again". He apologized and it hasn't happened since.

TheEleven
03-03-2005, 02:19 AM
I had this happen in a similar home game, although the person who peeked wasn't involved in the hand (he was just dealer for the hand). Since the game is mostly newbies, I pulled the old "Well, try doing that in a casino" during the ensuing discussion. It worked pretty well, but you have be wary of using that too often because you don't want to become that guy who always talks about how they run games in casinos. It's just asking for mockery!

RiverDood
03-04-2005, 01:21 AM
In a $20 game, I'd mention it, but not make a federal case out of it. The higher the stakes, the more adamant I'd be about not poking through dead hands, peeking at other players' hands after folding, etc. If there's serious money on the line, people ought to play seriously.

But I've also played in small-stakes weekly games where we're all trying to sharpen up our skills for bigger tournaments elsewhere. In that environment, as long as the player who folded had some skin in the hand, there's more of a feeling that: "Hey, this is a teaching moment for both of us, and let's talk out the hand afterward."

Depends on what kind of mood you want for that particular game. Naturally, it's better manners for him to ask if he can see. And then it's your call.

Anyway, sounds like you handled it fine.

BigRedAce
03-04-2005, 08:30 PM
I'd pop a cap in his a$$.

But we're a little old-school in our game...