If i ruled the world

[rusty JEDI]

If i ruled the world:


Light a smoke and put it to your lips and it explodes thus eliminating you from the human race because you dont belong here anyway. Does anyone actually believe it looks cool? Does anyone actually believe its not bad for you? The thing that bothers me the most is that now they have been moved outside they all feel the need to smoke as close to the door as possible so you must walk through a thick cloud of the crap every time you come in or out.

Put a cell phone to your ear and it explodes thus eliminating you from the human race. I suppose we could figure something out so it wont explode in an emergency situation.

Talk in a movie theater repeatedly and your chair explodes, and you are no longer a pain in the side of humanity.

Feel free to discuss or add your own.

rJ

[The Dude]

I spent this summer in Washington, and came to realize how spoiled I am in California. Here in CA, there is no smoking inside. Not in restaurants, not in bars, and not in cardrooms. In WA there were many times I left a cardroom after a very short session because I couldn't stand the smoke. I also opted to drink w/ friends at home rather than a bar. It was worth it to not have to breath in that much smoke, but it still wasn't the same as drinking in a bar.

[tolbiny]

If i ruled the world i would...

Bitch slap people who think that they have more of a right to public space than i do.

[The Dude]

I don't think that smokers shouldn't be allowed in public places. I just think they shouldn't be allowed to skoke there.

I have a right to not smoke. And you smoking right next to me in a cardroom infringes on the right.

[Duke]

I think it's all solved by people exhibiting some civility in every situation.

The problem is with confrontational monkeys butting heads on both sides of whatever issue you're going to bring up (smoking/cell phone/talking in theatres).

~D

[rusty JEDI]

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I think it's all solved by people exhibiting some civility in every situation.

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Some civility sounds good to me.

How about the smokers pick up their fat hardened artery ass and walk away from the door instead of blowing it right where everyone has to walk.

Also people could save their talking for after the movie.

As far as cell phones go as long as they dont cut me off, slow me down in traffic, or ring in a theater or class i suppose i can put up with that one.

rJ

[tolbiny]

"I have a right to not smoke. And you smoking right next to me in a cardroom infringes on the right."

Don't the smokers have a right to smoke. Basically i think that a Bar/Cardroom should have the ability to decide weather or not to be smoke free. YOu have the option of not frequenting smokeing cardrooms and bars. There is naturally a problem if the cardroom cannot exhist without the smokers, but why should the non-smokers have more rights than the smokers. Its tough to strike a balance.

[daryn]

wow, i vote rj for prez.

[daryn]

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Don't the smokers have a right to smoke.

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this is kinda dumb. there's a clear difference between having the right to breathe fresh air and having the right to smoke. for instance i have the right to douse myself in gasoline and immolate myself in my own home, but i shouldn't be able to do it in a cardroom where i'm sitting close/next to people.

[ThaSaltCracka]

what does immolate mean?

BTW, tolbiny your argument is stupid.

[daryn]

to kill oneself, usually w/ fire

[daryn]

just quit smoking you motherf'ing addicts!!!


sorry, had to add that.

[ThaSaltCracka]

or just smoke by yourself, ya know, just like how you masturbate.

[Michael Davis]

Your example is somewhat extreme, but if you are allowed to pour gasoline on yourself at home (which I'm not sure of), you presumably would be able to open up some large, fireproof business where you could allow people to come in and pour gasoline on each other.

If someone chooses to enter this business, they know what they're getting. You could also serve dinner there.

You always have the option not to go to a restaurant or bar.

-Michael

[daryn]

ok...

i am fully in favor of having "smoking bars" etc. then, non-smokers know what they're getting into. the problem comes when a "normal" place allows smoking. then you are forcing smoke upon non-smokers who just want to go to that restaurant.

my point is, the "smoking bar" should the be the special place, not the norm, as breathing fresh air is the norm, not smoking.

hmm i hope that made sense

[rusty JEDI]

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am fully in favor of having "smoking bars" etc. then, non-smokers know what they're getting into.

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I agree with this statement as well

but.....

In a non smoking place they shouldnt pack themselves all around the doorway because they are too f'ing lazy to move away from it. I guess from their point of view if they move away from the door we wont all see how cool they look as we pass by them on our way in.

rJ

[wacki]

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If i ruled the world i would...

Bitch slap people who think that they have more of a right to public space than i do.

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I kind of like this one.


As for smoking, believe it or not tobacco isn't that bad for you. The fact that people are dying from cigarettes is due to the phosphate fertilizer they are dumping on the tobacco. If they simply used better fertilizer, people wouldn't die. But that, ironically enough, isn't cost effective.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=Tobacco+polonium&amp;btnG=Google+Search

There are chemicals such as benzylpyrene which are carcinogens, but they aren't that dangerous. It's the fertilizer that kills you, not the tobacco.

[The Dude]

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As for smoking, believe it or not tobacco isn't that bad for you.

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BULLSHIT

[daryn]

there's always a guy that will try to say something like that at a party or something. you know what i'm talking about.

sh!t like, you know, more people are alive on earth today than have ever died.

[astroglide]

there's always a guy that will try to say something like that at a party or something. you know what i'm talking about.

sh!t like, you know, more people are alive on earth today than have ever died.

yep. and as i've observed in other threads, that guy is 2+2's bruiser.

[Bob Moss]

The biggest thing that bothers me about non-smoking-bar arguments is that no one bothers to stop and ask themselves, if this were left up to bar owners, what would the policy on smoking be? My question to you is, why should anyone BUT the property owner get to make this decision?

Bob

[rusty JEDI]

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My question to you is, why should anyone BUT the property owner get to make this decision?


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Because all the owner has is $$$ on his mind. I have health and fresh air on mine, and that is for everyone. I think it should be absolutely banned, it has nothing to offer.

rJ

[Michael Davis]

Of course the owner is concerned about money. You can live life without ever stepping into a bar or restaurant.

-Michael

[Lazymeatball]

Since the bar owner has money on his mind, it is up to him to decide whether he values the business of smokers vs non-smokers. If the place offers smoking, go somewhere else with your money. Let the free market decide instead of socialist government bureaucracy.

[TheRake]

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Because all the owner has is $$$ on his mind. I have health and fresh air on mine, and that is for everyone.

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Yup when I go to a bar all I am thinking about is my health too. I drink NATURAL Light.

TheRake

[mmcd]

Does anyone actually believe its not bad for you?

No, I thought they were good for you, I thought they had vitamin C in 'em and sh it.

Here in CA, there is no smoking inside... not in bars... I also opted to drink w/ friends at home rather than a bar. It was worth it to not have to breath in that much smoke, but it still wasn't the same as drinking in a bar.

Hmmm don't go to bars if you can't stand smoke. Who'd have thunk it.

Seriously, its a fk'n bar. Bars are (supposed to be) dark smoke-filled places. If you want fresh clean air, then go hiking or something.


This anti-smoking nonsense has gone WAY to far. I can see having no smoking in an airplane or in a hospital or whatever, but in BARS? This is just getting ridiculous.

[ArchAngel71857]

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If i ruled the world:


Light a smoke and put it to your lips and it explodes thus eliminating you from the human race because you dont belong here anyway. Does anyone actually believe it looks cool? Does anyone actually believe its not bad for you? The thing that bothers me the most is that now they have been moved outside they all feel the need to smoke as close to the door as possible so you must walk through a thick cloud of the crap every time you come in or out.

Put a cell phone to your ear and it explodes thus eliminating you from the human race. I suppose we could figure something out so it wont explode in an emergency situation.

Talk in a movie theater repeatedly and your chair explodes, and you are no longer a pain in the side of humanity.

Feel free to discuss or add your own.

rJ

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How about if your cell phone rings in a movie theatre while you are smoking and talking, i get your first born daughter and six free shots with a baseball bat.

-AA

[GWB]

Here's an idea, let the market decide.

Have smoking and non-smoking bars, and you the customer can pick which to go to.

If a town has 15 on-premises liquor licenses to pass out, have 9 smoking and 6 non-smoking licenses, let the difference in their value be determined by the market too.

[jagoff]

If I ruled the world...

The armrest in movies and my vehicle would be off limits to those jackasses who think that they have a right to said armrest.

The toilet paper roll would never be empty especially after Taco Bell!

I could piss all over the seat with a blazing morning hard on and not fear retribution.

"The old lady" wouldn't talk to me about mundane things that happened in her day and expect some sort of reaction from me.

I could fart at work and not have the old biddies say "that is just foul!". Instead they would say "God you are so cool!" and mean it!

I could go on but I don't want to take up anymore of your time.

[The once and future king]

I dont smoke.

However you want to smoke in any bar or restraunt I am in go ahead.

Id rather have a relaxed attitute in an environment biult for the purpose of relaxation than an uptight quasi fascist no smoking policy.

Get a grip.

Pubs are supposed to be smokey, its part of there ambience and there charm.

We are all going to die. I can understand that the idea that someone else brought that event closer by havin a F.A.G, would piss you off, but I dont like it when health issues start getting all nanyish and well frankly Ive given in to the urge to call you all a bunch of pussies.

I have never had to leave any space because it was to smokey. Thats just the way of the wuss.

Instead of there being special smoking bars etc, there should be special no smoking areas within normal bars/Pubs. Pubs biult for real men.

[JackPrice]

Nice List!

[M2d]

Kurtis Blow- If I Ruled the World

Huh-huh-huh, UH UH
Uh-huh, huh, huh, mm mmm
.. mm mmm
Yes yes y'all
The best y'all, yes yes y'all
Huh, huh, huh, huh.. yes y'all

If I ruled the world, was king on the throne
I'd make peace in every culture, build the homeless a home
I'm not runnin, for Congress or the President
I'm just here, to tell the world, how my story went
You see - first it was a dream, I was livin in Rome
And then I moved to London, bought a brand new home
And everywhere I went, I drew lots of attention
Like a stretch limousine, one of those new inventions
It took a few years 'fore the day had come
But I was ruler of the WORLD ranked number one
So I headed towards Washington to claim the crown
Let the whole world know that, the King was in town
As I, arrived, the crowd started to cheer
and then someone yelled out, "The King is here!"
So I headed toward stage, to make a speech
about the new style of living I was gonna teach, uh-huh

If I ruled the world..
Huh-huh, huh-huh uh-huh uh-huh
I'd love all the girls.. I love em love em baby!!
Black diamonds and pearls.. ooh yeahh yeahh
If I ruled the world..

People started flowin as they reached for my hand
I said, "Thank you for bringin me to the Promised Land
but now I must go, say goodbye to everybody
Tonight I'll see you all at my Super Dinner Party"
And late that night, at my Super Dinner Party
I was dancin to the beat and entertainin La-Di-Da-Di
The music started endin, it was time for a speech
The crowd started sittin as I rose from my feet
And this was once a dream; I explained to the crowd
but now, I rule the world, and I feel, so very proud
Excuse me please, for stoppin this show
I just had to thank you all, huh, and me so
my first day in office, the King on the throne
I spent my first three hours on the telephone
You know with newsmen reporters, and votes too
I had so many calls, I didn't know what to do
You know out that office I continued to work
I signed so many papers, my fingers started to hurt
Then I shook off the pain, say this ain't no thing
Cause there's nothin in the world like bein number one KING!

If I ruled the world..
Huh huh huh huh, huh-huh huh-huh
I'd love all the girls.. I love em love em baby!!
Black diamonds and pearls.. ooh yeahh yeahh
If I ruled the world.. whoawowaahhhyeahhhhhhhh
.. if I ruled the world

{AJ Scratch cuts up the track for a bit}

Now I rule the world and now, I'm on top
And I'm rollin with folks that could never be stopped
And I'm here to let you know this is where I belong
And to you sucker MC's that sing my song
And it's a song that's STRONG about right and wrong
And I'm rock it to you baby baby all night long
And it's a song about love, and happiness
in a world of peace, and you know that's fresh
Now I'm the KING, and I want you to know
that I'm the Master Blaster Rapper who's runnin the show
And to all of you rappers in every country
you better stop what you're doin, and listen to me
Cause we gotta stop war, and use unity
to fight crime and hunger and poverty
Cause the African baby is dyin overseas
while you sucker mission politicians bustin out Z's
Huh, twenty million people all unemployed
while the rich man try to play Pretty Boy Floyd
While the working class just struggles hard
Try to make ends meet against all odds
While the poor man can't even deal with life
You know he tried to escape, and smoked the coke on the pipe
And it's time for a CHANGE, to a better way
Cause the sun has GOTTA shine through the cloudy day
So LISTEN UP world, while I teach this class
and take heed to the message or we ain't gonna last
Cause I know, the solution, is the contribution
of woman and man to just join the revolution
that'll take your brain to a higher plane
and help you deal in a world that's gone insane
with the problems that I know we can stop
from the ruler of the world and the man on top
But the years went by, and time was up
And the ruler of the world had ran out of luck
And all the people at the time who said they were my friends
didn't know me when my job had come to an end
They came up to my face, as happy as can be
He was running his mouth like, Muhammad Ali
So I shook his hand calmly as I headed to the door
On my way to the ghetto to treat once more

If I ruled the world..
A-huh-huh-huh, a-huh-huh-huh
I'd love all the girls.. I love em love em baby!!
Black diamonds and pearls.. ooh yeahh yeahh
If I ruled the world.. yeahhhhhhhh
If I ruled the world.. if I ruled the world
I'd love all the girls.. I'd love em love em baby!!
Black diamonds and pearls.. ooh yeahh yeahh, oh yeah yeah
If I ruled the world.. whoahahayeahhhhhhhh
If I ruled the world.. yeahyeahyeahyeahyeahyeahyeah
yea yea yea, yea yea yea
I'd love all the girls.. you know I'd love em love em baby!!
Black diamonds and pearls.. ooh yeahh yeahh, oh yeah yeah
If I ruled the world.. yeayeah yeayeah baby babyyyyyyy
If I ruled the world.. if I ruled the world..
I'd love all the girls.. yes you, you, you and you
Black diamons and pearls.. where those diamonds, where those pearls?
If I ruled the world..
Huh-huh, huh-huh, a-heh-heh-huh-huh
If I ruled the world..
Heh-heh, heh-heh
I'd love all the girls.. I'd love em love em baby..

[wacki]

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As for smoking, believe it or not tobacco isn't that bad for you.

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BULLSHIT

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I stand by my statement! The most carcinogenic compound in Tobacco is benzylpyrene. I know people that used to wash their hands with chemicals much more carcinogenic than benzylpyrene. In fact one professor I know chuckles everytime laws regarding some of these chemicals are brought up. It's still bad for you, but it's not even close to as bad as people think.

Now, if tobacco had something in it as powerful as Ethidium bromide, I would be saying something completely different.

Daryn, do not confuse me with some stoner that is at a party. I've read numerous Journals on the subject, the amount of radiation you get from tobacco is shocking.

All you have to do is click on the link I posted, and start reading.

If there is a Chemist or Biologist in here, feel free to post Journals discrediting what I have said. I have been talking to biologists and chemists (PhD's) about this subject for almost a decade and no one has shown me any proof refuting these claims. If I am wrong, or there is a more legitimate reason why companies are doing what they are doing, I would like to know.

BTW, I am a nonsmoker, and I too think it's a nasty habit. I just don't understand the polonium related decisions by the companies/government.

[wacki]

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Here's an idea, let the market decide.

Have smoking and non-smoking bars, and you the customer can pick which to go to.

If a town has 15 on-premises liquor licenses to pass out, have 9 smoking and 6 non-smoking licenses, let the difference in their value be determined by the market too.

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I like that one.

[The once and future king]

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The most carcinogenic compound in Tobacco is benzylpyrene. I know people that used to wash their hands with chemicals much more carcinogenic than benzylpyrene.

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Yes but do they smoke it? Also is this unprocessed tobacco you are talking about?

[rusty JEDI]

Nonsmoking and smoking bars I can deal with.

Why do smokers at my University insist on sitting right outside of the entrance doors to smoke up where the entire rest of the users of the building have to walk through it?

One more

Why do smokers feel they have the right to litter and throw the butts all over the ground. I was sitting on a bench eating my lunch and the whole ground was littered with the stuff.


rJ

[daryn]

yeah, college sucks for that. cigarette butts EVERYWHERE. it's just gross. and yeah they all have to smoke in the doorway. the saddest part is to see people huddled together, outside in the dead of winter, just because of their addiction.

[Boris]

have a smoke and chill the [censored] out dude.

[wacki]

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The most carcinogenic compound in Tobacco is benzylpyrene. I know people that used to wash their hands with chemicals much more carcinogenic than benzylpyrene.

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Yes but do they smoke it? Also is this unprocessed tobacco you are talking about?

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The stats I have seen are on naturally grown, naturally dried tobacco. I agree that lung tissue is different than skin tissue. But at the same time small doses of vaporized benzylpyrene is different than dipping your hands into pure liquids. That conversation is something I don't think either one of us is really qualified to debate.

My points center around two arguements. The chemicals that people complain about in tobacco, will create havok on your lung tissue, but they do not really affect the genetic structure and leave the living tissue behind. People can smoke tobacco and live long lives. The problem with polonium is that the body cannot process it. The radiation it gives off is the worst kind, and polonium is deposited on the linings of the lungs. More and more polonium is deposited, and the first few microns of the lungs linings are highly radiated. The rest of the lung isn't really effected by polonium, but it doesn't matter. Once cancer starts it will spread. When you look at the stats of the radiation and how concentrated it is at the first few microns, it's hard to believe that people live as long as they do while smoking.

Still, I have been talking about polonium for almost a decade and not one person has shown me lab studies or definitive proof of cancer caused by non radioactive tobacco. In fact, I have only seen the opposite. If I am wrong, someone please show proof, but I have been waiting a long time.

I have sent numerous journals from John Hopkins, and Nature to whitelies.tv but I have not recieved any response. I simply don't understand the behavior.

Still, I will restate, I am a nonsmoker and I think it's a nasty habit. But my opinions do not shape my facts!