PDA

View Full Version : no limit 10 10 10 flop what next?


11-05-2001, 05:04 PM
This was painful... Ultimate Low Limit/No Limit Holdem (wasn't sure where this was supposed to go - low limits or here since it was no limit). Max Buy in 25 .10/.25 blinds - so they can protect guys like me from myself.


Big Blind unraised. 3 limpers I check with K7x. I have about 15 bucks. flop is 10 10 10. Everyone checks including me. I know that someone could be slow playing. K is flop. I bet 1.00 to see what was out there. next two fold. Button raises to 2 dollars. What next? I didn't figured he had AA because he didn't raise preflop. thought he might have a king as well - to which we split and the rake wins...or he is holding that 10.


I raised all in, he turned over the 10 and I was out my 15 dollars and I have not stopped kicking myself since (I know talking about $15 at a high limit forum is enough to make everyone roll!). What was the right move there? Fold to the raise? Call the raise? If I call, I probably call to the river and lose my stack anyway. Be gentle, I am still trying to get better. These are the calls that keep the fish tag on me that I am trying to break free from.


Thanks,

Kevin

11-05-2001, 06:06 PM
I meant K on turn.. duh..

11-05-2001, 09:06 PM
Hi Kevin, I was at the table at the time, and i remember thinking "what the hell is he doing?".The problem you had was you were betting in a nothing pot, with a hand that nobody will call unless they either have you tied or beat. If you are lucky you may get called by an underpair such as 7s, but they are never going to call an allin bet, so why make one?


The correct play was to check it on the turn, and call a small bet if one comes. If an Ace falls on the river, your check may have cost the pot however, the pot is tiny anyway. Don't call a large bet on the river. Really the guy is only likely to try and sell it for $2, as he knows its hard to call without his hand.

11-05-2001, 09:13 PM
After I bet the dollar and he raised to two - should I have just folded?


Thanks for the help

Kevin

11-05-2001, 09:27 PM
Thats an interesting problem, which could easily be argued either way. For him to raise you he must have minimum a K. So you have to call $1, and then probably $2 or $3 on the end, to try and split. So when he raises think am i willing to spend $4 to try and get half of the pot right now (less rake). And of course there is always the real threat of the case T, where you get nothing.


So to finally answer your question, don't bet it in the first place, but throw away when raised.

11-06-2001, 12:04 AM
This is my first post ever on this forum after a year of

lurking about. Thanks to all for their insights into poker.


I normally play at Paradise and in Seattle area casinos,

but I started playing the no-limit games at UltimateBet last

week, mainly for fun. I wouldn't beat yourself up too much

about the hand - everyone goes bust one time or another when

they play no-limit.


I've noticed that the players on UltimateBet tend to not take into account the size of the pot when determining what to bet, raise, or when to call (not to mention how much it may cost to play a hand thru). I see players betting .25 into $4 pots

and players calling $5 bets with speculative hands when the pot

has $1 in it.


I would agree with Mr. Peterson's analysis - try not to go broke in a nothing pot (unraised). I was the guy on the button with the J,10. I really didn't expect to make much on the hand, but I thought that if someone caught a big card I might get some play. And when the King hit on the turn and you bet, well, you know what happened.


Good luck and hang in there. Feel free to e-mail me,

Kevin - I always enjoy discussing poker.


Slide