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Go Blue
10-02-2004, 10:34 PM
I have a habit to show only one of my hole cards when it's folded down after I bet. I don't do it all the time, but only when I feel I can either fool someone or get into their head. So I was doing this yesterday time to time, until eventually someone at the table took my other card and turned it over from the muck pile. He said that you have to show both of your hole cards...or show nothing at all. A few people agreed with him, and some said that you don't have to show both, but it's rude to show only one. Anyway, the person later appologized to me for touching my cards but said that I still had to show both. I don't think this is true...I've done this at casinos, in home games a lot, and have seen it on TV. What's the deal?
BillD
10-02-2004, 10:44 PM
Show one, show all -- if you show your cards to one player, you must show them to all the other players.
Go Blue
10-02-2004, 10:47 PM
No, I meant that I showed one card to everyone and didn't show the other card.
young nut
10-02-2004, 11:07 PM
I think it is totally legitimate to only turn one card face up if everyone folds and you show that card to the whole table. You are in fact doing them a favor by showing them that one card. No one called your bet to see your hole cards, so you are giving them a 1 card peek for free.
However, if it comes to a showdown, I am a strong believer in turning BOTH of your cards face up, even if you aren't playing your second hole card. Some of my buddies I play with seem to disregard that rule, but I make sure that I see both cards.
And on the other subject, you can't show someone else at the table a card and not the rest while a hand is live. Also, if you say you have a certain card during a hand, you must show that card or your hand is mucked and you are out of the pot.
waciii
10-02-2004, 11:54 PM
GO BLUE:
He is saying that your friends are misinterpreting the "Show One, Show All" rule.
You were right, they were wrong. The "rule" refers to people ... not cards.
Pros show a single card on TV all the time.
With regard to the other comment about showing a single card in a showdown:
Technically, according the Robert's Rules if I recall correctly, you must show both cards at showdown to have a complete hand and win the pot. Even if you only need one, you must show both.
Go Blue
10-03-2004, 03:04 AM
Yeah, that's what I thought obviously. There's no WAY that it's wrong to SHOW only one card when there's no showdown.
As for a showdown, I actually recently learned that to claim a hand, whether it's a winning one or not, one MUST show both cards, even if using only one. I never knew this, but learned it when I started playing at casinos not too long ago. Apparently, this is to prevent possible shady activity (and cheating)...everyone must see the actual hand you played, not just one of the cards. I guess it's an official hold'em rule.
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Yeah, that's what I thought obviously. There's no WAY that it's wrong to SHOW only one card when there's no showdown.
As for a showdown, I actually recently learned that to claim a hand, whether it's a winning one or not, one MUST show both cards, even if using only one. I never knew this, but learned it when I started playing at casinos not too long ago. Apparently, this is to prevent possible shady activity (and cheating)...everyone must see the actual hand you played, not just one of the cards. I guess it's an official hold'em rule.
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That's correct. Basically if you go to showdown, to claim the pot, you have to show both cards. If the hand doesn't go to showdown you can show one, two or zero cards. However, if you show one card to any player at the table, then everyone has a right to see that card. If you show both, then everyone has a right to see both. This also applies if you fold. In other words, if you and the player to your right are in a pot, he bets, you fold while flashing him your cards, then everyone at the table has the right to see those cards.
weekapaugz
10-03-2004, 08:46 PM
Stew -- why is this considered a right? Is it because you are giving one person more information than the rest of the table?
LetsRock
10-04-2004, 12:07 AM
That is so retarded. The "Show one show all rule refers to "who" not the cards: if you show your cards to one person, you have to show them to everyone.
If there is an uncontested pot, or you are mucking your hand, you can show one card all day long. Your dealer SHOULD have straightened that ignorant player out. (I hate really inneffective dealers.)
Go Blue
10-04-2004, 03:16 AM
Eh...home game here. No official dealers.
emp1346
10-04-2004, 04:02 AM
I think you should have a rule with your home game that people who play in it have to know the rules.
*gasp*
What a concept.
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Stew -- why is this considered a right? Is it because you are giving one person more information than the rest of the table? [/quote
Yep and once you divulge that information to one player then everyone else is able to access it.
LetsRock
10-05-2004, 11:17 PM
It is still the dealer's responsibility to control the game. We have dedicated player delaers in our home game and not "just anyone" is allowed to deal.
TheTurk
10-06-2004, 01:06 PM
You were right.
You only need to show both Cards when it's a Showdown. I know at Foxwoods you can lose the hand if you only show one card at showdown. Lets say you have Ax and the other guy has Kx and lets say the board is A A A 10 10
If you only show the Ace at showdown and then throw your cards or the upside down card into the muck the other play wins. Even if it's obvious that you had the best hand you need to show both else you can end up losing the hand. Although these rules are not enforced by most of the dealers if you did this the other guy can claim the pot for himself and the floor will agree.
dakine
10-06-2004, 04:39 PM
Have written rules, and have each player read the rules, before you start a game. This avoid's controversy.
top2pear
10-06-2004, 06:04 PM
Bob Ciaffone's article on this very topic from a recent CardPlayer Magazine (http://cardplayer.com/poker_magazine/archives/showarticle.php?a_id=14248)
Bob Ciaffone is the author of "Robert's Rules of Poker." This article dispells some of the common misconceptions about the "show one, show all" rule AND adds a new wrinkle for a unique no-limit situation.
And i thought i'd seen (on TV) that, in some situations, showing your cards to another player kills your hand (i.e., it's equivalent to folding). Am i misremembering? If not, what's different between what Go Blue did and what i remember seeing?
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Bob Ciaffone's article on this very topic from a recent CardPlayer Magazine (http://cardplayer.com/poker_magazine/archives/showarticle.php?a_id=14248)
Bob Ciaffone is the author of "Robert's Rules of Poker." This article dispells some of the common misconceptions about the "show one, show all" rule AND adds a new wrinkle for a unique no-limit situation.
And i thought i'd seen (on TV) that, in some situations, showing your cards to another player kills your hand (i.e., it's equivalent to folding). Am i misremembering? If not, what's different between what Go Blue did and what i remember seeing?
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Yes, that could invoke the one player to a hand rule.
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