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SmileyEH
10-02-2004, 09:37 PM
Since moving up to the $30's I havent noticed much of a difference of play except when HU....I have more than twice as many 2nds as 1sts(50 tourney sample) so I think my game has some leaks.

My biggest I think is getting hit with opps limping on the button with good hands knowing I will go all in then calling. At the $20's this wasn't a problem because for every slowplayed limp, there were about 10 call, folds.

Here's a handhistory from a tourney where I got 2nd (ignore the BB early on, I'm concerned about the later hands). Any that stick out as over reckless, or what have you I'd be glad to hear about.

-SmileyEH

***** Hand History for Game 1014614980 *****
dotriver finished in third place and won $60.
400/800 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 6240455) - Sat Oct 02 21:23:08 EDT 2004
Table Table 11607 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 7: SmileyEH1 (6280)
Seat 9: boxorayn (1720)
SmileyEH1 posts small blind (200)
boxorayn posts big blind (400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SmileyEH1 [ 8d, 3h ]
SmileyEH1 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 600
SmileyEH1 balance 6080, lost 200 (folded)
boxorayn balance 1920, bet 400, collected 600, net +200

***** Hand History for Game 1014615631 *****
SmileyEH1: gg
400/800 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 6240455) - Sat Oct 02 21:23:18 EDT 2004
Table Table 11607 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 7: SmileyEH1 (6080)
Seat 9: boxorayn (1920)
boxorayn posts small blind (200)
SmileyEH1 posts big blind (400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SmileyEH1 [ Qd, Qs ]
boxorayn calls (200)
SmileyEH1 raises (5680) to 6080
SmileyEH1 is all-In.
boxorayn calls (1520)
boxorayn is all-In.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 5d, Kh, Kc ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ac ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 3c ]
Creating Main Pot with $3840 with boxorayn
Creating Side Pot 1 with $4160 with SmileyEH1
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3840 | Side Pot 1: 4160
Board: [ 5d Kh Kc Ac 3c ]
SmileyEH1 balance 4160, bet 6080, collected 4160, lost -1920 [ Qd Qs ] [ two pairs, kings and queens -- Ac,Kh,Kc,Qd,Qs ]
boxorayn balance 3840, bet 1920, collected 3840, net +1920 [ As Jd ] [ two pairs, aces and kings -- As,Ac,Kh,Kc,Jd ]

***** Hand History for Game 1014616979 *****
500/1000 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 6240455) - Sat Oct 02 21:23:40 EDT 2004
Table Table 11607 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 7: SmileyEH1 (4160)
Seat 9: boxorayn (3840)
SmileyEH1 posts small blind (250)
boxorayn posts big blind (500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SmileyEH1 [ 8s, 3h ]
SmileyEH1: nh
boxorayn: give those back
SmileyEH1 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 750
SmileyEH1 balance 3910, lost 250 (folded)
boxorayn balance 4090, bet 500, collected 750, net +250

***** Hand History for Game 1014617631 *****
boxorayn: thx
500/1000 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 6240455) - Sat Oct 02 21:23:51 EDT 2004
Table Table 11607 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 7: SmileyEH1 (3910)
Seat 9: boxorayn (4090)
boxorayn posts small blind (250)
SmileyEH1 posts big blind (500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SmileyEH1 [ Kh, Qd ]
boxorayn folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 750
SmileyEH1 balance 4160, bet 500, collected 750, net +250
boxorayn balance 3840, lost 250 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1014618309 *****
500/1000 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 6240455) - Sat Oct 02 21:24:02 EDT 2004
Table Table 11607 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 7: SmileyEH1 (4160)
Seat 9: boxorayn (3840)
SmileyEH1 posts small blind (250)
boxorayn posts big blind (500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SmileyEH1 [ 2h, Tc ]
SmileyEH1 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 750
SmileyEH1 balance 3910, lost 250 (folded)
boxorayn balance 4090, bet 500, collected 750, net +250

***** Hand History for Game 1014618943 *****
500/1000 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 6240455) - Sat Oct 02 21:24:13 EDT 2004
Table Table 11607 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 7: SmileyEH1 (3910)
Seat 9: boxorayn (4090)
boxorayn posts small blind (250)
SmileyEH1 posts big blind (500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SmileyEH1 [ Qh, 9s ]
boxorayn calls (250)
SmileyEH1 raises (3410) to 3910
SmileyEH1 is all-In.
boxorayn folds.
Creating Main Pot with $4410 with SmileyEH1
** Summary **
Main Pot: 4410
SmileyEH1 balance 4410, bet 3910, collected 4410, net +500
boxorayn balance 3590, lost 500 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1014620000 *****
500/1000 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 6240455) - Sat Oct 02 21:24:30 EDT 2004
Table Table 11607 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 7: SmileyEH1 (4410)
Seat 9: boxorayn (3590)
SmileyEH1 posts small blind (250)
boxorayn posts big blind (500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SmileyEH1 [ Jh, 3c ]
SmileyEH1: didnt think you try it twice lol
SmileyEH1 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 750
SmileyEH1 balance 4160, lost 250 (folded)
boxorayn balance 3840, bet 500, collected 750, net +250

***** Hand History for Game 1014620606 *****
500/1000 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 6240455) - Sat Oct 02 21:24:40 EDT 2004
Table Table 11607 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 7: SmileyEH1 (4160)
Seat 9: boxorayn (3840)
boxorayn posts small blind (250)
SmileyEH1 posts big blind (500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SmileyEH1 [ 2s, 4s ]
boxorayn raises (1150) to 1400
SmileyEH1 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1900
SmileyEH1 balance 3660, lost 500 (folded)
boxorayn balance 4340, bet 1400, collected 1900, net +500

***** Hand History for Game 1014621421 *****
500/1000 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 6240455) - Sat Oct 02 21:24:53 EDT 2004
Table Table 11607 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 7: SmileyEH1 (3660)
Seat 9: boxorayn (4340)
SmileyEH1 posts small blind (250)
boxorayn posts big blind (500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SmileyEH1 [ Ac, Jh ]
SmileyEH1 raises (3410) to 3660
SmileyEH1 is all-In.
boxorayn folds.
Creating Main Pot with $4160 with SmileyEH1
** Summary **
Main Pot: 4160
SmileyEH1 balance 4160, bet 3660, collected 4160, net +500
boxorayn balance 3840, lost 500 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1014622209 *****
500/1000 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 6240455) - Sat Oct 02 21:25:06 EDT 2004
Table Table 11607 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 7: SmileyEH1 (4160)
Seat 9: boxorayn (3840)
boxorayn posts small blind (250)
SmileyEH1 posts big blind (500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SmileyEH1 [ 7h, Qc ]
boxorayn folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 750
SmileyEH1 balance 4410, bet 500, collected 750, net +250
boxorayn balance 3590, lost 250 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1014622857 *****
500/1000 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 6240455) - Sat Oct 02 21:25:16 EDT 2004
Table Table 11607 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 7: SmileyEH1 (4410)
Seat 9: boxorayn (3590)
SmileyEH1 posts small blind (250)
boxorayn posts big blind (500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SmileyEH1 [ 5d, 8h ]
SmileyEH1 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 750
SmileyEH1 balance 4160, lost 250 (folded)
boxorayn balance 3840, bet 500, collected 750, net +250

***** Hand History for Game 1014623395 *****
500/1000 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 6240455) - Sat Oct 02 21:25:24 EDT 2004
Table Table 11607 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 7: SmileyEH1 (4160)
Seat 9: boxorayn (3840)
boxorayn posts small blind (250)
SmileyEH1 posts big blind (500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SmileyEH1 [ Qd, 4h ]
boxorayn folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 750
SmileyEH1 balance 4410, bet 500, collected 750, net +250
boxorayn balance 3590, lost 250 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1014624044 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 6240455) - Sat Oct 02 21:25:35 EDT 2004
Table Table 11607 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 7: SmileyEH1 (4410)
Seat 9: boxorayn (3590)
SmileyEH1 posts small blind (300)
boxorayn posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SmileyEH1 [ Qs, 3s ]
SmileyEH1 raises (4110) to 4410
SmileyEH1 is all-In.
boxorayn folds.
Creating Main Pot with $5010 with SmileyEH1
** Summary **
Main Pot: 5010
SmileyEH1 balance 5010, bet 4410, collected 5010, net +600
boxorayn balance 2990, lost 600 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1014624804 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 6240455) - Sat Oct 02 21:25:48 EDT 2004
Table Table 11607 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 7: SmileyEH1 (5010)
Seat 9: boxorayn (2990)
boxorayn posts small blind (300)
SmileyEH1 posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SmileyEH1 [ 2s, 4h ]
boxorayn calls (300)
SmileyEH1 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3c, Jd, 7h ]
SmileyEH1 checks.
boxorayn bets (1000)
SmileyEH1 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2200
Board: [ 3c Jd 7h ]
SmileyEH1 balance 4410, lost 600 (folded)
boxorayn balance 3590, bet 1600, collected 2200, net +600

***** Hand History for Game 1014625964 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 6240455) - Sat Oct 02 21:26:06 EDT 2004
Table Table 11607 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 7: SmileyEH1 (4410)
Seat 9: boxorayn (3590)
SmileyEH1 posts small blind (300)
boxorayn posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SmileyEH1 [ Ad, Qs ]
SmileyEH1 raises (4110) to 4410
SmileyEH1 is all-In.
boxorayn folds.
Creating Main Pot with $5010 with SmileyEH1
** Summary **
Main Pot: 5010
SmileyEH1 balance 5010, bet 4410, collected 5010, net +600
boxorayn balance 2990, lost 600 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1014626902 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 6240455) - Sat Oct 02 21:26:21 EDT 2004
Table Table 11607 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 7: SmileyEH1 (5010)
Seat 9: boxorayn (2990)
boxorayn posts small blind (300)
SmileyEH1 posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SmileyEH1 [ As, 2c ]
boxorayn calls (300)
SmileyEH1 raises (4410) to 5010
SmileyEH1 is all-In.
boxorayn folds.
Creating Main Pot with $5610 with SmileyEH1
** Summary **
Main Pot: 5610
SmileyEH1 balance 5610, bet 5010, collected 5610, net +600
boxorayn balance 2390, lost 600 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1014627909 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 6240455) - Sat Oct 02 21:26:37 EDT 2004
Table Table 11607 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 7: SmileyEH1 (5610)
Seat 9: boxorayn (2390)
SmileyEH1 posts small blind (300)
boxorayn posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SmileyEH1 [ 4c, Kd ]
SmileyEH1 raises (5310) to 5610
SmileyEH1 is all-In.
boxorayn folds.
Creating Main Pot with $6210 with SmileyEH1
** Summary **
Main Pot: 6210
SmileyEH1 balance 6210, bet 5610, collected 6210, net +600
boxorayn balance 1790, lost 600 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1014628642 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 6240455) - Sat Oct 02 21:26:49 EDT 2004
Table Table 11607 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 7: SmileyEH1 (6210)
Seat 9: boxorayn (1790)
boxorayn posts small blind (300)
SmileyEH1 posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SmileyEH1 [ 6c, Kh ]
boxorayn calls (300)
SmileyEH1 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 5s, Jh, 5c ]
SmileyEH1 bets (1200)
boxorayn calls (1190)
boxorayn is all-In.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6s ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Qs ]
Creating Main Pot with $3580 with boxorayn
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3580 | Side Pot 1: 10
Board: [ 5s Jh 5c 6s Qs ]
SmileyEH1 balance 4420, bet 1800, collected 10, lost -1790 [ 6c Kh ] [ two pairs, sixes and fives -- Kh,6c,6s,5s,5c ]
boxorayn balance 3580, bet 1790, collected 3580, net +1790 [ 9s 9h ] [ two pairs, nines and fives -- Qs,9s,9h,5s,5c ]

***** Hand History for Game 1014630237 *****
SmileyEH1: nh
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 6240455) - Sat Oct 02 21:27:15 EDT 2004
Table Table 11607 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 7: SmileyEH1 (4420)
Seat 9: boxorayn (3580)
SmileyEH1 posts small blind (300)
boxorayn posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SmileyEH1 [ 5c, 8c ]
SmileyEH1 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 900
SmileyEH1 balance 4120, lost 300 (folded)
boxorayn balance 3880, bet 600, collected 900, net +300

***** Hand History for Game 1014630785 *****
boxorayn: thx
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 6240455) - Sat Oct 02 21:27:24 EDT 2004
Table Table 11607 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 7: SmileyEH1 (4120)
Seat 9: boxorayn (3880)
boxorayn posts small blind (300)
SmileyEH1 posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SmileyEH1 [ 3c, 6c ]
boxorayn calls (300)
SmileyEH1 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Kc, Qd, 8h ]
SmileyEH1 checks.
boxorayn checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Js ]
SmileyEH1 checks.
boxorayn bets (600)
SmileyEH1 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1800
Board: [ Kc Qd 8h Js ]
SmileyEH1 balance 3520, lost 600 (folded)
boxorayn balance 4480, bet 1200, collected 1800, net +600

***** Hand History for Game 1014632168 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 6240455) - Sat Oct 02 21:27:46 EDT 2004
Table Table 11607 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 7: SmileyEH1 (3520)
Seat 9: boxorayn (4480)
SmileyEH1 posts small blind (300)
boxorayn posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SmileyEH1 [ Jh, Ah ]
SmileyEH1 raises (3220) to 3520
SmileyEH1 is all-In.
boxorayn folds.
Creating Main Pot with $4120 with SmileyEH1
** Summary **
Main Pot: 4120
SmileyEH1 balance 4120, bet 3520, collected 4120, net +600
boxorayn balance 3880, lost 600 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 1014632899 *****
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 6240455) - Sat Oct 02 21:27:58 EDT 2004
Table Table 11607 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 7: SmileyEH1 (4120)
Seat 9: boxorayn (3880)
boxorayn posts small blind (300)
SmileyEH1 posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SmileyEH1 [ Td, Js ]
boxorayn calls (300)
SmileyEH1 raises (3520) to 4120
SmileyEH1 is all-In.
boxorayn calls (3280)
boxorayn is all-In.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 5s, 8h, Ah ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Tc ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 5c ]
Creating Main Pot with $7760 with boxorayn
Creating Side Pot 1 with $240 with SmileyEH1
** Summary **
Main Pot: 7760 | Side Pot 1: 240
Board: [ 5s 8h Ah Tc 5c ]
SmileyEH1 balance 240, bet 4120, collected 240, lost -3880 [ Td Js ] [ two pairs, tens and fives -- Ah,Td,Tc,5s,5c ]
boxorayn balance 7760, bet 3880, collected 7760, net +3880 [ As 9c ] [ two pairs, aces and fives -- As,Ah,Tc,5s,5c ]

***** Hand History for Game 1014634096 *****
SmileyEH1: nh
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 6240455) - Sat Oct 02 21:28:17 EDT 2004
Table Table 11607 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 7: SmileyEH1 (240)
Seat 9: boxorayn (7760)
SmileyEH1 posts small blind (240)
boxorayn posts big blind (600)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SmileyEH1 [ Qc, Qh ]
SmileyEH1 is all-In.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qs, Kd, 6c ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5c ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 5h ]
Creating Main Pot with $480 with SmileyEH1
** Summary **
Main Pot: 480 | Side Pot 1: 360
Board: [ Qs Kd 6c 5c 5h ]
SmileyEH1 balance 480, bet 240, collected 480, net +240 [ Qc Qh ] [ a full house, Queens full of fives -- Qc,Qh,Qs,5c,5h ]
boxorayn balance 7520, bet 600, collected 360, lost -240 [ 6s 3c ] [ two pairs, sixes and fives -- Kd,6s,6c,5c,5h ]

***** Hand History for Game 1014634735 *****
boxorayn: thx
600/1200 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 6240455) - Sat Oct 02 21:28:27 EDT 2004
Table Table 11607 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 7: SmileyEH1 (480)
Seat 9: boxorayn (7520)
boxorayn posts small blind (300)
SmileyEH1 posts big blind (480)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SmileyEH1 [ 3h, Qh ]
boxorayn calls (180)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9d, 7c, Ks ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Kc ]
Creating Main Pot with $960 with SmileyEH1
** Summary **
Main Pot: 960 |
Board: [ 9d 7c Ks 5h Kc ]
SmileyEH1 balance 0, lost 480 [ 3h Qh ] [ a pair of kings -- Ks,Kc,Qh,9d,7c ]
boxorayn balance 8000, bet 480, collected 960, net +480 [ 7h Js ] [ two pairs, kings and sevens -- Ks,Kc,Js,7h,7c ]

Jman28
10-02-2004, 11:28 PM
I just moved up to the 30s too. I personally didn't find much wrong with the way you played.

The push with Q3s was strange since you didn't push A2 later on. Maybe it was a timing thing?

This whole slowplaying heads up thing has got me thinking a lot. I think that without TT-AA, I don't like it that much. Rather than pushing with A9o and taking down 750, he either:

a) gives you a free flop.

or

b) gets you to push a slightly(usually) worse hand.

Your pot equity with JTo v A9o is still 43.75 to his 56.25

The way it turned out, he got you to push when he had a small edge. With the 750 from the blinds in there, calling an all in by him wouldn't have been a huge mistake %wise. But I assume you wouldn't have done it.

I still feel that heads up, unless the blinds are small, slowplaying with less than a big pair or maybe AK-AJ is not a winning play.

Of course, there are circumstances where it is. If your opponent will push any two cards when you limp then yeah, 77+, A8+, maybe a few more are good.

I just think there isn't much gained when you lure an opponent into an all-in that's not far from a coin-flip.

*Please note, I am not a confident heads-up player. If I'm mistaken here, please, please tell me. I need to learn too.


-Jman28