two overs paired board

[CT11]

Hands like this are tough for me.

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, MP3 folds, Button folds, Hero calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (18 SB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (11.50 BB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks.

River: (11.50 BB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, <font color="CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero folds, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls.

Final Pot: 17.50 BB


Thanks,

~CT11

[ArturiusX]

I would have folded on the flop.

[CT11]

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I would have folded on the flop.

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with 22:1?

--added-- : and closing the action?

[ArturiusX]

No flush draw, 10 isnt the best kicker, and you're drawing to overcards that probably have AK's and the like.

But thats just me :P

[Ajax410]

I think there is a time when you can determine that you're beat. You don't have a draw...you don't have a draw to a draw...if a 10 comes you probably still aren't winning, and if a K comes you probably still aren't winning. The raise here preflop is fine, but when you got 3-bet, that was probably an indication that you were a) behind or b) dominated. When the board comes giving you NOTHING, there is a time to pack up your bags and go home.

Are big pots sexy? Yes, especially when we're a major reason why they're there.

Ed Miller says don't fold for one bet more...which is true, but generally requires you to have either something or a draw to something...you have neither. I strongly consider folding this on the flop...probably end up calling, and then most definitly enter check/fold mode - someone is going to be calling you down with at least Ace high in a pot this big.

[Ajax410]

Arturius - I like the way you think...We said the same thing, yours was just about 1/10 the length...I'm jealous :P

[AVF2k1]

I would probably done the same as you. As you know you are geting 22:1 to call on the flop, that's an OK call. If you are lucky you have 6 outs but I would only count the T:s as outs. Still 22:1 is ok to call such a draw.
/AVF2k1

[TheRiverKnows]

I wouldn't have raised pre-flop to begin with. I would have folded the flop as well. You don't really have any type of draw at all. If the K or T of spades comes, that could complete a flush. And you are probably dominated with both cards anyway, especially the K.

[CT11]

I see your points ArturiusX, and Ajax410's points now. Thanks for the input.

~CT11