08-24-2001, 05:34 PM
2-3-5 no limit, 7 handed.
The point of this hand is that if you can just step back and think about the hand as if it were someone else's hand, it's often obvious what you need to do. But in the heat of battle you start confusing yourself. It was so obvious that I was losing it's a little mind boggling that I even CONSIDERED putting money in the pot.
The player on my right is loose-passive preflop. He's passive on the flop when he has nothing but he will totally overbet his decent and good hands. I've never seen him make a big bluff. The farthest I've seen him go is to bet out with only ace high when he misses the flop, but he does this rarely. He likes to call big bets when he's on a draw. Yes, he's a very bad player. (BP) But he's incredibly lucky. I've never seen anyone win so much money playing so badly.
I look like I have been playing snug but it's because I've been holding nothing but crap all night.
I have 900 in front of me and BP covers me. (He just won a monster pot by calling-all in with a gut shot and making it on the river).
BP opens under the gun for 20. I raise to 70 with two red jacks. All fold to BP who raises 150 more.
I am guaranteed to be facing a bigger pair right now. There's 300 in the pot, and I'll have about 700 behind me if I call. I'm BARELY getting the odds to go for a set but I call anyway. I know for sure that I need the set to win.
Flop is two-tone rags. BP bets 100. This is where my mind turns to mush. Somehow I convince myself he might be betting a flush draw or have only AK and I call. I figure to myself that it's worth 100 to call and see if he'll stop betting. If he stops betting, then I might have a chance at having the best hand. Confusion reigns supreme apparently.
Turn is the suited ace, putting three hearts on the board.
BP bets 250 more. Ok, clarity at last!
I have a draw to a flush against his trip aces.
250 to win 900 although I'm guaranteed to get paid so I can call 250 and if I hit I double up. He has trip aces because he simply would not bet into a three flush board with the ace out there if he had only KK or something. Even if he had the suited king he would check roughly 99% of the time. He's very timid in the face of scare cards so when he bet the turn after the ace showed up he might as well have flipped his AA face up for me.
So I should call right? 250 to win about 1300 25% of the time. I fold cause I'm stupid and confused right now. So I lost 300 on a JJ that I knew was no good from the get go. And when I finally got to the point where I was getting the odds to draw to a winner, I folded. And I wasn't even drinking!
I couldn't have played this hand worse except by going all-in preflop.
Amazingly, I broke even for the night without making a single hand that got paid.
natedogg
The point of this hand is that if you can just step back and think about the hand as if it were someone else's hand, it's often obvious what you need to do. But in the heat of battle you start confusing yourself. It was so obvious that I was losing it's a little mind boggling that I even CONSIDERED putting money in the pot.
The player on my right is loose-passive preflop. He's passive on the flop when he has nothing but he will totally overbet his decent and good hands. I've never seen him make a big bluff. The farthest I've seen him go is to bet out with only ace high when he misses the flop, but he does this rarely. He likes to call big bets when he's on a draw. Yes, he's a very bad player. (BP) But he's incredibly lucky. I've never seen anyone win so much money playing so badly.
I look like I have been playing snug but it's because I've been holding nothing but crap all night.
I have 900 in front of me and BP covers me. (He just won a monster pot by calling-all in with a gut shot and making it on the river).
BP opens under the gun for 20. I raise to 70 with two red jacks. All fold to BP who raises 150 more.
I am guaranteed to be facing a bigger pair right now. There's 300 in the pot, and I'll have about 700 behind me if I call. I'm BARELY getting the odds to go for a set but I call anyway. I know for sure that I need the set to win.
Flop is two-tone rags. BP bets 100. This is where my mind turns to mush. Somehow I convince myself he might be betting a flush draw or have only AK and I call. I figure to myself that it's worth 100 to call and see if he'll stop betting. If he stops betting, then I might have a chance at having the best hand. Confusion reigns supreme apparently.
Turn is the suited ace, putting three hearts on the board.
BP bets 250 more. Ok, clarity at last!
I have a draw to a flush against his trip aces.
250 to win 900 although I'm guaranteed to get paid so I can call 250 and if I hit I double up. He has trip aces because he simply would not bet into a three flush board with the ace out there if he had only KK or something. Even if he had the suited king he would check roughly 99% of the time. He's very timid in the face of scare cards so when he bet the turn after the ace showed up he might as well have flipped his AA face up for me.
So I should call right? 250 to win about 1300 25% of the time. I fold cause I'm stupid and confused right now. So I lost 300 on a JJ that I knew was no good from the get go. And when I finally got to the point where I was getting the odds to draw to a winner, I folded. And I wasn't even drinking!
I couldn't have played this hand worse except by going all-in preflop.
Amazingly, I broke even for the night without making a single hand that got paid.
natedogg