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housenuts
09-30-2004, 05:02 AM
sorry if this was brought up already but i'd like to find out if there's a big difference between $10+1 and $20+2 SNG's. I got my bankroll up from $50 to $300 playing $5+.50 and then decided it was a chance to try the $10+1 SNG's. I've been very successful at these and think it might be time to move up again. I have $500 in my account right now.

The essence of this post isn't really to find out how much bankroll I need to play $20+2, but really, what is the skill difference between $10+1 and $20+2? I haven't found any skill difference at all between 5 and 10? Is there a jump when you go up to 20?

Stoneii
09-30-2004, 07:38 AM
what site?

Solitare
09-30-2004, 08:45 AM
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Is there a jump when you go up to 20?

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Two specific differences I've noticed:

- Fish busting out in early rounds over-playing small-medium pocket pairs more often in $10s. It happens in $20s, but in $10s the fish just seem to love to push their 99 all-in during the first couple of hands.
- Significantly worse three-handed and heads-up play.

wjmooner
09-30-2004, 12:11 PM
I would say that on most 10$ SnGs you have 5 or 6 clueless players and you hope one of them gets all the chips.

On a 20$ SnG you have 3-4 clueless players.

Still clueless, just not as many.

C

rachelwxm
09-30-2004, 12:26 PM
Your bankroll is good for 20s although I would go down to 10+1 if I have lost couple 20s in a row. It does not hurt to try though. I have stayed long enough at 10+1 having over 200+ and I jump directly to 30s. In my view, it's easy than 20s since they like to gamble while as most successful player takes 20s as their first step.
JMO

housenuts
09-30-2004, 12:45 PM
thanks, i'm talking about Poker Stars by the way.

Karak567
09-30-2004, 12:47 PM
I started playing 20s when my bankroll was a mere 200 dollars. If I lose two or more in a row, I drop down to 10s, but you will find that 20s are for the most part REALLY easy. I seem to find that they are easier at night than they are during the day, though. Not sure why that is.

housenuts
10-14-2004, 08:17 PM
i've been trying to make a full-time jump up to $20+2 but i don't find i'm consistent enough at it. i definitely find them tougher than the $10+1.

i think this may be my problem. i can pretty much crush $10+1. i don't even watch the table until it gets down to 4 or 5. for example, right now i'm playing one but just searching 2+2 and reading up on other things. so basically i have no reads on players or anything, but i can still beat the game by playing solid ABC (what i think is ABC at least) poker.

i think that's where the difference lies in the $20+2. you need to have somewhat of a read on the opponent to get any slight edge you can. even if it's just to pick up a small pot, or lay down a big hand. the reason for this is, as someone mentioned before there is usually 4 or 5 competent players, as opposed to 1 or 2 in in the $10+1.

so my question is, how important do you think it is to completely focus on the table when you're playing? especially at these lower limits

kurosh
10-14-2004, 08:28 PM
Personally, I honestly think the level of skill goes DOWN as the stakes increase. People tend to go all-in more, especially on draws. Maybe they just do it to me because I have an extremely aggressive style and they think I'm bluffing but I get really really sick of getting reraised all in by a flush draw when I have top pair and then busting out because of it.

kleraudio
10-14-2004, 08:33 PM
the skill level does not go "down" as buy in increases.

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