LOL. Crying babies = easier party/empire for the rest of us

[bicyclekick]

While I admit the crap empire pulled kinda stupid, everyone knows the bonus wasn't meant to be how it was. I agree it's horrible PR and they definately should recredit our accounts, boycotting it is absolutely hilarious. Go right ahead. Find better/as many fish with multiple tables at another site...

Oh, wait, party's games are the best. Get over it. Quit crying, this isn't 5th grade.

meow meow meow.

[The_Tracker]

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While I admit the crap empire pulled kinda stupid, everyone knows the bonus wasn't meant to be how it was. I agree it's horrible PR and they definately should recredit our accounts, boycotting it is absolutely hilarious. Go right ahead. Find better/as many fish with multiple tables at another site...

Oh, wait, party's games are the best. Get over it. Quit crying, this isn't 5th grade.

meow meow meow.

[/ QUOTE ]

Ignore this dope.

[Nate tha' Great]

I'd like to take a prop bet on the following:

Number of 2+2ers who will actually boycott Party/Empire
vs
Number of people who will actually move to Canada if George W. Bush wins re-election.

[bicyclekick]

/images/graemlins/grin.gif

for the record I do think you should email them to complain...it's the the incesent whining/bitching on here that's irritating.

Oh, and go boycott them, tell them who's boss... *rolls eyes*

[Evan]

I can find fish that are just as good and jsut as many tables at 4 different site. You wanna guess what they are?

[bicyclekick]

not really.

[Nate tha' Great]

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I can find fish that are just as good and jsut as many tables at 4 different site. You wanna guess what they are?

[/ QUOTE ]

Aren't all the Party skins part of one business enterprise? (I'm not trying to be rhetorical; I don't know).

[ripped]

you are a [censored] idiot..we can move to party and get the same dumbass fish as yourself..

keep making dumbass strings so people can bash you for being a complete idiot. Will be fun watching your [censored] all night as you post.. You obviously need some attention to post such BS knowing that everyone will get on your case. Maybe you should get a girl or something..maybe that way the attention you lack in your everyday life will be present.

tata fish

[Evan]

No, thats why they each fight for players. Empire gets thier own rake, Party gets thier own rake, etc.

[Evan]

This really isn't necessary. Bicycle Kick is a good guy, if you disagree with him just say it (I did). A post like this is really useless.

[Michael Davis]

You can dig up an Other Topics post I made months ago. I will not be holding up my end of the bargain, but there is a good chance I would have if I had been kicked out of school as I should have.

-Michael

[Sheriff Fatman]

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Aren't all the Party skins part of one business enterprise? (I'm not trying to be rhetorical; I don't know).

[/ QUOTE ]

No - Corals is a well known UK bookmaker and I doubt it has any direct ownership links with iglobalMedia (Party) and whoever controls Empire.

Intertops is also primarily a sportsbook. Not sure where its best known though but the emails I get from them seem to be focussed on NFL betting so I assume it has a US bias.

As for Multipoker .... /images/graemlins/confused.gif

Sheriff

[bicyclekick]

ahh so you think party is going to treat you better...riiight.

[bicyclekick]

The one other thing I will note is rake rebates are far better on empire than on any other site. If that's not a good enough convincer to play on empire...well then I just don't understand if you play a lot you're losing far more than 500 in rake rebates by switching...

Bash me all night, I really don't care. I'm not an ass, nor am I trying to be. I just think you guys are funny and taking it too far.

[ripped]

dont care.. Empire will not make another dime in rake..period.

I play poker fulltime so they will lose a few thousand a month rake from me alone..and hopefully if enough quit playing there they will see a nice drop..they wont see it from just me but a few hundred people they will see a nice dip.

[thatpfunk]

Bicycle,
I have always enjoyed reading your poker related posts, but your complacency/apathy is somewhat sad. If posters or players feel the need to boycott a company it is not immature or "5th grade." It is incredibly mature of a player to seriously give up a site because of their obvious disregard for loyal customers. I am sorry to say that your post serves as a model for the apathy of the American consumer.

Also it is unfortunate that the forum has become so cluttered with senseless posts. But, please remember that 2+2 serves as an online community for poker players. A major company that runs the games we play has committed a mistake. I, for one, am encouraged to see that so many other players/posters do not just accept the company's choice of action. Something as small as an e-mail means something. I encourage all players to send at least an e-mail outlining their dissatisfaction with the events that occured today.

This is not a personal attack, please do not take it as one. I am a lurker on this site (more or less) and enjoy your posts. I hope to continue reading quality posts.

[sthief09]

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I can find fish that are just as good and jsut as many tables at 4 different site. You wanna guess what they are?

[/ QUOTE ]

Aren't all the Party skins part of one business enterprise? (I'm not trying to be rhetorical; I don't know).

[/ QUOTE ]


yes, iGlobalMedia owns them all. if people pull out of Empire and redeposit into Party it still hurts whoever is in charge of Empire though, and it'll probably cost some people their jobs and stuff.

[sthief09]

I agree. I'll take money over spite anyday.


the good thing about this whole situation is there is Empire has managed to divide 2+2 into "morons" and "rational humans"

the morons are clearly the ones going around cursing at everyone that disagrees with them

[bicyclekick]

[ QUOTE ]
Bicycle,
I have always enjoyed reading your poker related posts, but your complacency/apathy is somewhat sad. If posters or players feel the need to boycott a company it is not immature or "5th grade." It is incredibly mature of a player to seriously give up a site because of their obvious disregard for loyal customers. I am sorry to say that your post serves as a model for the apathy of the American consumer.

Also it is unfortunate that the forum has become so cluttered with senseless posts. But, please remember that 2+2 serves as an online community for poker players. A major company that runs the games we play has committed a mistake. I, for one, am encouraged to see that so many other players/posters do not just accept the company's choice of action. Something as small as an e-mail means something. I encourage all players to send at least an e-mail outlining their dissatisfaction with the events that occured today.

This is not a personal attack, please do not take it as one. I am a lurker on this site (more or less) and enjoy your posts. I hope to continue reading quality posts.

[/ QUOTE ]

Heh, what's funny is I think we agree on most aspects and it's not the fact that they think they should boycott the company, it just seemed so rash, hasty and as if it was taking over the whole message board. Hell, there were 15 threads about it. Does everyone really need to go off about it?

I'm sorry that I took such a negative route. I too, was immature and took things too far.

I was just sick of all the whining as every single new thread was about the same crap.

I'm glad you enjoy the usual level headed posts. I got off my rocker.

[uw_madtown]

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I was just sick of all the whining as every single new thread was about the same crap.

[/ QUOTE ]

Frankly, I was sick of it about 8 hours after the post about the bonus was made. General HE turned into the Zoo in a hurry. I hope TPTB crack it down a bit -- seeing half the threads are about bonuses, rakeback, and now boycotting Empire... it's ridiculous. The first post was a helpful notice, but now it's just out of control.

- UW

[bicyclekick]

I also really wish I could delete this thread because it's no better than the other threads that were created. Just clutter.

[umdpoker]

"I agree. I'll take money over spite anyday. "

me too. however, if i can make them lose money by switching back to party, i have no problem doing so. as long as i get to play against the same fish, i'm happy. i would just like to make one request: please do not be rude to the empire people, as it will just make them less likely to change their minds.

[thatpfunk]

Glad you're back on your rocker /images/graemlins/smile.gif

All this name calling and bickering is getting ridiculous though. I feel like Im on UPF or something.

[ripped]

and the best part about it is that it shows people are mad and are going to do something about it and not just accept it. that was the whole point the the threads so they are not useless..just alittle too big.

[D.H.]

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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I can find fish that are just as good and jsut as many tables at 4 different site. You wanna guess what they are?

[/ QUOTE ]

Aren't all the Party skins part of one business enterprise? (I'm not trying to be rhetorical; I don't know).

[/ QUOTE ]


yes, iGlobalMedia owns them all.

[/ QUOTE ]

True for Empire, Party, Multipoker (and probably some more) but not for Coral/Eurobet which is a UK company.

[carlo]

About 6 months(?) ago I went to the iGlobalMedia site and they offered that a person /corporation could:

1) Purchase(lease) their programs(poker,etc.) and be responsible for all aspects of the site(marketing,money handling,support,etc.)
2) Lease their programs and be responsible for the Marketing of the site--all other aspects would of course be taken care of by iGlobalMedia.

Taking option #1 could have meant that the site did not have to be a skin but freelance(none that I know of).

Option #2 probably included skins,etc.

From my experience on Empire,Party support is the same and located in India.(The originaters of iGlobalMedia were stated to be 30 Indian programmers/systems analysts at the company start up.

Previously on this site one poster stated that Empire is "owned by a "gentleman" from Switzerland. Intertops is connected to Coral/Eurobet which is a big English bookmaking site--don't know about support/contractural agreement in this case.

Empire and Party are different contractually but are the same--Support is the same and this is what counts and what the difficulty is all about.

Logged onto the website (iGlobalMedia) today and none of this information is available. They've hidden all aspects of their offers as now you have to E-Mail the company in order to make a purchase/lease but no understanding is available online that was there previously.

The Canadian stuff is a foothold into the West and has nothing to do with the real Party.

I'm not sure why I did this,but there it is for your information and I stand to be corrected.

regards,
carlo

[Sponger15SB]

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the morons are clearly the ones going around cursing at everyone that disagrees with them

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which one does bicycle kick fall into? certainly idiotic for calling everyone "crying babies".

[Warik]

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which one does bicycle kick fall into? certainly idiotic for calling everyone "crying babies".

[/ QUOTE ]

Well at least he's not a moron.

According to Webster:
idiot - noun: a stupid person
moron - noun: a very stupid person

idiot > moron

So there. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

(j/k kick - I agree with you and wish the whining would stop. The animals have escaped from the Zoo apparently.)

[bicyclekick]

lol! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[mmcd]

If I had to guess, I'd say who ever runs Empire pays Party/IGM $X (either a big payment up front or a yearly/monthly payment), and gets to keep some percentage of the rake generated by empire players (maybe just a small percentage depending on how much X is)

[TheRake]

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it'll probably cost some people their jobs and stuff.

[/ QUOTE ]

Totally excellent point dude! Totally!

TheRake