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nsj
09-28-2004, 10:05 PM
First off, I'd like to thank everyone for their contributions, sage advice, constructive criticism, etc...

I've moneyed in 3 of my last 5 MTTs, and I can attribute it almost entirely to a steady stream of insight from many here, especially with regard to PATIENCE and DISCIPLINE. I still need to work on the middle stages of tournaments, trying to pick up more blinds and build my stack so I can make more moves later on. That said -- and it's all relative as we're talking about $3-11 MTTs.... -- I feel in complete control and confidence with a short stack.

Scenario here is about 450 left in a 2000 person Multi on Stars. I've been moved around quite a bit, so I have no particular reads yet. I feel my newfound discipline and patience abandoned me here, but I can't figure out exactly where I should have ditched the hand. My real-time thoughts are spliced in....

Thanks for future advice in advance...
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed)

saw flop|<font color="C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP2 (t7213)
MP3 (t3760)
CO (t2875)
Button (t1620)
SB (t7135)
<font color="C00000">BB (t5925)</font>
<font color="C00000">Hero (t4170)</font>
<font color="C00000">UTG+1 (t8635)</font>
MP1 (t5405)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
Hero calls t200...

(Mistake 1? I like my hand, hate my position. I feel often that from UTG, KQs is too good to fold, too weak to raise with so many left to act. I'm also hoping that a UTG limp might hold some in check so I can see a flop for cheap.)

UTG+1 calls t200, MP1 calls t200, MP2 calls t200, <font color="666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">BB raises to t600</font>, Hero calls t400, UTG+1 calls t400, MP1 calls t400, MP2 folds.

Flop: (t2700) A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>

(Ok. Nut flush draw. With four callers to the flop, I know I'm behind, but figure my implied odds are HUGE if I can hit the turn..... so I call. Blah. This is a raise all-in or muck, isn't it.....)

<font color="CC3333">BB bets t1000</font>, Hero calls t1000, UTG+1 calls t1000, MP1 folds.

Turn: (t5700) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks,

(All my money is going into this pot regardless. Might as well give the big stack in the hand the chance to stab at it with position.)

<font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets t7035 (All-In)</font>, BB calls t4325 (All-In), Hero calls t2570 (All-In).

(BB calls too?!?! At this point I'm just begging that they both have big aces and they hate that third club..... but I suspect my day is done.)

River: (t19630) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t19630
<font color="green">Main Pot: t13410 (t13410), between BB, Hero and UTG+1.</font>
<font color="green">Pot 2: t3510 (t3510), between BB and UTG+1.</font>
<font color="green">Pot 3: t2710 (t2710), returned to UTG+1.</font>

Lay it on me, my skin is thick.
Results to come (although I'm sure you can guess them...)

Almtom
09-28-2004, 11:58 PM
You should NOT and i realy mean NOT chase a flush vs 4 ppl if there is a boardpair. Atleast i think so i mean if someone has A7 or if they hit their full house by setting a pocket you will loose all ure money. I dont like to chase draws that might can kill me