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solucky
09-26-2004, 11:46 AM
Hello

I am in the moment a small winner in poker, i came originally from backgammon. In backgammon u could make easy money online 3 years ago, but now the fishes stop playing or they are learning and be good enough to play nearly even. So the rakes steal the profit from nearly anyone. Will poker have the same bubble and soon the games will be harder and nearly noone wins ?????????

regards Wolfgang

MicroBob
09-26-2004, 11:52 AM
you can play backgammon online for money??


the fact that i didn't know this is already the answer to your question.
there are significantly more people who know that you can play poker on the internet for money.
this means more fishies for everybody.


if the World Backgammon Tour was as popular on TV as the WPT then I suspect backgammon would be as profitable as it ever was (and probably more so).

HavanaBanana
09-26-2004, 12:32 PM
They have programs that you can use that play a decent game of BG, an online BG player told me that people were using these programs to make right decicions, poker is still by far played by humans not machines.

solucky
09-26-2004, 01:12 PM
this with the software is a bit true...but it help more to improve the skill. backgammonservers dont tolerate sogtwarehelp like trackers.....And on the way the same company just develop a pokersoftware...www.snowiegroup.com.

Lazymeatball
09-26-2004, 01:15 PM
I know what you mean,
just look at what happened to poker in B&M casino's.

OldLearner
09-27-2004, 03:58 PM
Not IMHO.

The casinos continue to thrive even though their current customer base will learn to play better and lose less money, get sick of losing their money or simply lose all of their money.

Every year, a fresh crop of young customers comes of age. Some of them will venture into a casino and become attracted to gambling.

What may kill online poker will not be a lack of customers.

lefty rosen
09-27-2004, 04:05 PM
I have seen juicy games dryup quickly. I remember Pacific poker having retard games where the 15/30 tables were full of clueless .5/1 calibre players. Now its a rock garden. I have even seen 1/2 games dry up. Anything is possible. When January comes and the bad senders get their credit card bills in the mail, many of the loonie December games become rock gardens........

BradleyT
09-27-2004, 04:18 PM
If China ever comes on board the poker bandwagon the numbers at sites today will be laughable.

Losing all
09-27-2004, 04:20 PM
And many of the fish that have been at the beach all summer will be cold, and donating.

Losing all
09-27-2004, 04:22 PM
Tokyo man, That's all I want. Ok, and Hong Kong.

Lebronomania
09-27-2004, 04:54 PM
The biggest threat to online poker is legislative. I've been playing online for 4 to 5 years, and IMHO, players are just as bad as they ever were. Quite frankly, bad players do not frequently become good players, nor do bad players stop playing.

I'm praying for ya, China.

EjnarPik
09-27-2004, 05:42 PM
One thing that seperates poker from most other games, is that it has to be for money, to make any sense.

In other games, the fish can play for fun, and have almost the same experience.

Thus there will be more fish in poker, than in other games for money.

Ejnar Pik, Southern-Docks.

Neil Stevens
09-27-2004, 10:48 PM
If games that are -EV for the average Joe don't stay profitable in the long run, then how do slot machines light up the Strip?

jokerthief
09-29-2004, 10:00 AM
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One thing that seperates poker from most other games, is that it has to be for money, to make any sense.

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This is a good point. Have any of you ever seen a fun and competitive play money poker game? The whole reason I started to play for real money was this very fact. The play money games are so increadibly loose that one may as well flip a coin over and over again for fun. The action needy fish also won't like the fact that their aces get cracked so frequently by 75s despite their EV going through the roof. They will say to themselves, "If people would only respect my raises, then I would win more often.", then go and register a real money account.

Graham
09-29-2004, 03:04 PM
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They have programs that you can use that play a decent game of BG, an online BG player told me that people were using these programs to make right decicions, poker is still by far played by humans not machines.

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I wondered about this. Couldn't you just fire up Jellyfish or whatever - at the most advanced setting - and play according to it's moves when you play your online opps moves..? No site could ever tell?