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Enon
09-26-2004, 02:19 AM
Avg Stack: 6600
140 Players remain out of 970

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (10 handed)

saw flop|<font color="C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP3 (t3210)
CO (t10270)
<font color="C00000">Button (t19925)</font>
SB (t500)
<font color="C00000">Hero (t5725)</font>
UTG (t7210)
UTG+1 (t12131)
UTG+2 (t5200)
MP1 (t4677)
MP2 (t22268)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, <font color="CC3333">MP3 raises to t800</font>, CO folds, <font color="CC3333">Button raises to t3300</font>, SB folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t5725 (All-In)</font>, MP3 folds, Button calls t2425.

Flop: (t12450) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t12450) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t12450) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t12450
<font color="green">Main Pot: t12450 (t12450), between Button and Hero.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by Button (t12450).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero has Kc Kh (one pair, kings).
Button has Qc As (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Button wins t12450. </font>
Considering my opponent is chip leader, there is obviously no way my opponent folds any hands here preflop (4-1 pot odds which makes his call correct for every legitimate raising hand here) but it is very possible that I could give up substantial +EV and ensure survival by pushing all in on a non ace flop here for another 2425 chips (what I would have left had I called preflop) into a 7600 pot giving him 3-1 odds to avoid him spiking an ace, hitting a runner runner straight or flush, or spiking a set on the turn or river etc. but also leaving myself in a tough spot if an ace flops.

fnurt
09-26-2004, 02:59 AM
It is well worth risking the 3 outs for a chance to double up.

How do you know your opponent has an ace, anyway? If you try the other line you are basically conceding any flop that includes an ace, even if he doesn't have one.

Chief911
09-26-2004, 10:05 AM
Like I said last night in chat, you did the right thing. Considering his stack I dont think a call then push on a non-ace flop is really what you want. Gotta get it all in with KK.

Of course, the irony was what happened when I had KK last night, but that's a whole nother thread.

Nick

Tosh
09-26-2004, 10:58 AM
Anything but all in is a mistake. This is just more results orientated thinking.