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Entity
09-25-2004, 07:31 PM
Too aggressive? MP3 is REALLY bad (just won a big pot on 72o against AA).

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed)

MP2 ($8)
MP3 ($4.60)
CO ($2.95)
Button ($13.05)
Hero ($6.80)
BB ($3.60)
UTG ($14.20)
UTG+1 ($1.60)
MP1 ($11.15)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG folds, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $0.4</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0.40, CO folds, Button folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to $1.4</font>, BB folds, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $1.6</font>, MP3 calls $1.20, Hero calls $0.20.

Flop: ($4.90) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, MP3 calls $1.

Turn: ($6.90) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP3 raises to $2</font>, Hero folds.

River: ($9.90) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $9.90

Entity
09-25-2004, 07:52 PM
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed)

BB ($23.75)
UTG ($10.10)
UTG+1 ($2)
MP1 ($7.90)
Hero ($3.80)
MP3 ($10.15)
CO ($14.50)
Button ($4.50)
SB ($14.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10, MP1 calls $0.10, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to $0.7</font>, MP3 calls $0.70, CO folds, Button calls $0.70, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $0.60.

Flop: ($3.15) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, MP3 calls $1, Button calls $1, MP1 calls $1.

Turn: ($7.15) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets $2.1 (All-In) . . .

Obviously KQ beats me here if anyone has it, but I have NO read on any of these guys. I don't think I can fold at this point, so I should push, right? They are ALL really fishy (calling huge PFRs with 74s OOP, etc.). It's becoming common to see a 6-way pot that was raised 5x BB preflop. I'm really not sure, with only $2.1 left, what I should do. I could've moved in on the flop -- should I have?

Rob

AncientPC
09-26-2004, 01:35 AM
1) What's the 3rd player doing? I'd bet pot on flop and check / fold if called.

2) Bet pot on flop (especially since it makes you go all in). Why wait until the turn to do it?

I don't have any experience with NL 10, but I'm assuming people are looser preflop since even 7xBB PFR is still under a $1 and most people think in terms of money and not BB.

That's why I don't like games where blinds are so small. Someone calling 7BB with .10 blinds means nothing, where as you can have at least an idea if someone calls a 7BB raise on with .50 blinds.

pfkaok
09-26-2004, 04:34 AM
Yeah, at those stakes I don't see much value in betting small on the flop, esp with another person allin. Even moreso since you know that the guy is bad and could have ATC. Also, pushing PF here wouldn't be too bad of an idea at those stakes if you're going to reraise at all. You're pretty much putting UTG allin already, so if you push at least you'll totally negate position, and at those stakes you're likely to get another person allin with AQ, AJ, or maybe any Axs if the 3rd guy really is that bad. Its a better move if you had AKs, pushing here is only a huge mistake if you're up against AA by MP guy.

Hand 2 should be definate push on flop, they'll call with any King, so why give somebody a cheap card to hit some garbage 2 pair... You know that you're going allin on the hand, and there's no turn card that you'll really like, like with the Q you have to worry that now he's on 2 pair... an if you hit your A on the turn you might not then get paid off by the weak king. I just think "baiting" people at that level is rarely the correct play.

cornell2005
09-26-2004, 08:32 AM
1. dont reriase preflop. the players are too loose in this game. you love to call preflop raises with AK when players are too loose. but you dont want to reraise and leave the hand up to chance.
you are screwed when he re-re-raises you there. just give it up and dont bother betting the turn. he isnt folding the turn except if he has AK which is unlikely. so all your doing is building a pot for the river in a hand that you have nothing

hand 2: fine