PT Auto-Rate Criteria for 6-max

[Packerfan1]

This AM I downloaded the new beta version of Poker Tracker. As always, it just gets better and better. One of the new features is to "auto-rate" your opponents based on various statistics where it then categorizes them automatically including an appropriate icon for quick assessment. (Hopefully the description or the icon would be very cool, will show up in Party's player notes)

Now you can set the criteria yourself, or I've posted my first shot at it for 6max below that you can copy into a text file and use the import feature in PT.

Comments on my guidelines would be most appreciated by those wiser than me and I hope this is a helpful file and discussion for others. IF the following doesn't work for copy and paste because of spacing issues, PM me and I'll email the txt file to anyone interested.

Copy and paste below here:


Autorate Rules Begin
Aggression:N
ARI_2 1 LP-P
1 2 50.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than or equal to 50.00
2 3 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than 5.00
15 4 1.00 Aggression Factor - Total is less than or equal to 1.00
ARI_14 2 LP-A
1 2 35.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than or equal to 35.00
2 3 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than 5.00
15 1 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than 1.50
ARI_12 3 sLP-P
1 5 35.00 50.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 35.00 and 50.00
2 3 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than 5.00
15 4 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is less than or equal to 1.50
ARI_11 4 sLP-A
1 5 35.00 50.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 35.00 and 50.00
2 3 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than 5.00
15 2 1.00 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 1.00
ARI_8 5 LA-P
1 2 50.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than or equal to 50.00
2 2 10.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than or equal to 10.00
15 4 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is less than or equal to 1.50
ARI_10 6 LA-A
1 2 50.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than or equal to 50.00
2 2 20.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than or equal to 20.00
15 2 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 1.50
ARI_5 7 sLA-P
1 5 35.00 50.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 35.00 and 50.00
2 2 10.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than or equal to 10.00
15 4 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is less than or equal to 1.50
ARI_4 8 sLA-A
1 5 35.00 50.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 35.00 and 50.00
2 2 10.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than or equal to 10.00
15 2 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 1.50
ARI_9 9 TP-P
1 4 20.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than or equal to 20.00
2 3 8.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than 8.00
15 4 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is less than or equal to 1.50
ARI_13 10 TP-A
1 4 30.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than or equal to 30.00
2 3 10.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than 10.00
15 2 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 1.50
ARI_6 11 TA-P
1 4 25.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than or equal to 25.00
2 2 15.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than or equal to 15.00
15 4 1.00 Aggression Factor - Total is less than or equal to 1.00
ARI_15 12 TA-N
1 4 25.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than or equal to 25.00
2 2 10.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than or equal to 10.00
15 5 1.00 2.00 Aggression Factor - Total is between 1.00 and 2.00
ARI_3 13 TA-A
1 4 25.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than or equal to 25.00
2 2 15.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than or equal to 15.00
15 2 2.00 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 2.00
Autorate Rules End

[NLSoldier]

Nice work, when i autorated my players i just kinda had to wing it, using bisons numbers from full table as an approximate guide, but i think yours look a little better than what i did.

[NLSoldier]

AHHH, i just tried to import your "rules" and it said the import was a success but it didnt actually work because now they all say "no rules defined" What did i do wrong?

[Nottom]

Where do players with VPiP between 20 and 35 go?

[Packerfan1]

Uh... PT purgatory?

Good point, here's my latest revision. Oh, and I now understand these icon's dont show up in party notes (that would be the coolest to replace the lame people avatars with your PT icons), so how exactly should a person use this new feature? Same with the new auto-import, auto-update HH thing, how are players maximizing the power of PT now? I feel like I'm just scratching the surface.

Autorate Rules Begin
Aggression:N
ARI_2 1 LP-P
1 2 50.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than or equal to 50.00
2 3 10.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than 10.00
15 4 1.00 Aggression Factor - Total is less than or equal to 1.00
ARI_14 2 LP-A
1 2 50.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than or equal to 50.00
2 3 10.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than 10.00
15 1 1.00 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than 1.00
ARI_12 3 sLP-P
1 5 30.00 50.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 30.00 and 50.00
2 3 10.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than 10.00
15 4 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is less than or equal to 1.50
ARI_11 4 sLP-A
1 5 30.00 50.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 30.00 and 50.00
2 3 10.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than 10.00
15 2 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 1.50
ARI_8 5 LA-P
1 2 50.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than or equal to 50.00
2 2 10.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than or equal to 10.00
15 4 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is less than or equal to 1.50
ARI_10 6 LA-A
1 2 50.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than or equal to 50.00
2 2 10.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than or equal to 10.00
15 2 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 1.50
ARI_5 7 sLA-P
1 5 30.00 50.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 30.00 and 50.00
2 2 10.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than or equal to 10.00
15 4 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is less than or equal to 1.50
ARI_4 8 sLA-A
1 5 30.00 50.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is between 30.00 and 50.00
2 2 10.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than or equal to 10.00
15 2 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 1.50
ARI_9 9 TP-P
1 4 20.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than or equal to 20.00
2 3 10.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than 10.00
15 4 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is less than or equal to 1.50
ARI_13 10 TP-A
1 4 30.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than or equal to 30.00
2 3 10.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than 10.00
15 2 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 1.50
ARI_6 11 TA-P
1 4 30.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than or equal to 30.00
2 2 10.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than or equal to 10.00
15 4 1.00 Aggression Factor - Total is less than or equal to 1.00
ARI_15 12 TA-N
1 4 30.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than or equal to 30.00
2 2 10.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than or equal to 10.00
15 5 1.00 2.00 Aggression Factor - Total is between 1.00 and 2.00
ARI_3 13 TA-A
1 4 30.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than or equal to 30.00
2 2 10.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than or equal to 10.00
15 2 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 1.50
Autorate Rules End

[Nemesis]

shouldn't you have TA-A as greater than 2.0 postflop so as not to overlap with TA-N?

[wahooriver]

I took a slightly different approach. First, I divided VPIP into only 2 divisions - tight (< 30). I divided aggression into 3 divisions. Here are my rules - text file available on request.

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Autorate Rules Begin
Aggression:N
ARI_2 1 Fish Loose Passive-Passive
1 2 30.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than or equal to 30.00
2 3 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than 5.00
15 4 0.70 Aggression Factor - Total is less than or equal to 0.70
ARI_14 2 Elephant Loose Passive-Neutral
1 2 30.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than or equal to 30.00
2 3 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than 5.00
15 5 0.70 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is between 0.70 and 1.50
ARI_12 3 Phone Loose Passive-Aggressive
1 1 30.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than 30.00
2 3 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than 5.00
15 2 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 1.50
ARI_11 4 Question mark Loose Aggressive-Passive
1 2 30.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than or equal to 30.00
2 2 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than or equal to 5.00
15 4 0.70 Aggression Factor - Total is less than or equal to 0.70
ARI_8 5 Dice Loose Aggressive Neutral
1 2 30.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than or equal to 30.00
2 2 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than or equal to 5.00
15 5 0.70 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is between 0.70 and 1.50
ARI_10 6 Taz Loose Aggressive-Aggressive
1 2 30.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than or equal to 30.00
2 2 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than or equal to 5.00
15 2 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 1.50
ARI_5 7 Frown Tight Aggressive-Passive
1 3 30.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 30.00
2 2 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than or equal to 5.00
15 4 0.70 Aggression Factor - Total is less than or equal to 0.70
ARI_4 8 Smile Tight Passive-Aggressive
1 3 30.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than 30.00
2 3 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than 5.00
15 2 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 1.50
ARI_9 9 Rock Tight Passive-Passive
1 4 30.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than or equal to 30.00
2 3 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than 5.00
15 4 0.70 Aggression Factor - Total is less than or equal to 0.70
ARI_6 11 Triangle Tight Passive-Neutral
1 4 25.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than or equal to 25.00
2 3 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is less than 5.00
15 5 0.70 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is between 0.70 and 1.50
ARI_15 12 Eagle Tight Aggressive-Neutral
1 4 30.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than or equal to 30.00
2 2 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than or equal to 5.00
15 5 0.70 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is between 0.70 and 1.50
ARI_3 13 Moneybags Tight Aggressive-Aggressive
1 4 30.00 Vol. Put Money In Pot % is less than or equal to 30.00
2 2 5.00 Pre-flop Raise % is greater than or equal to 5.00
15 2 1.50 Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 1.50
Autorate Rules End

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[kiddo]

I normally export: Vol. put $ in preflop, preflop raise, aggression factor flop, turn and river into the notes at Party Poker.

This says more then your icons.

I think its important to divide the aggression factor because some people is extremly aggressive on one street but not on others.

I would suggest using the icons for people who plays abnormly in other ways: like folding to much on river, checkraising a lot, not checkraising at all, not defending blinds/always defending blinds, stealing a lot...

In this way you will have all the information about preflop and aggression factor + if he is tricky in some way. Havent had time to do this yet, but when/if I have, I will post it.

[grinin]

I also export the same information as Kiddo but I like the icons because they can pretty much tell me at a glance the style player I am up against.

I have completely eliminated PFR from my icons because I am more interested in post flop aggression. So I have loose, semi-loose and tight players based on VPIP. I further differentiate this with 4 different levels of aggression for the tight and semi-loose players. Since the loose passive players make up the majority, I use a fifth super passive category with them.

There are definitely some interesting trends between the categories, but I would rather see a little bit larger sample size before making assumptions. Generally though it seems pretty clear that the passive players are going to get killed in this game.

[RamGad]

AHHH, i just tried to import your "rules" and it said the import was a success but it didnt actually work because now they all say "no rules defined" What did i do wrong?


Hi, just wondering if you (or anybody else) learned how to get around this problem. I importated some of the posted ratings, but get the same message. Thanks in advance to any help

[Packerfan1]

Several 2+2ers have emailed me for the text file. I'm assuming its worked for all of them.

If you want it, michael@wisconsinpoker.org

Pack

[Brock Landers]

I am noticing very different numbers in my PT for No Limit.

I have been winning (17 BB/100) in the PP 1/2 NL 6 max with the following #'s

VP$IP 50%
PFR% 7%
W$SD 52.5%

these numbers seem drastically different from effective Limit numbers.

Can anyone help here?

[imported_azalin]

In order for the autorate rules to work copy and paste in a new .txt file and the next step is to "fix" the spacing. You will need to have 1 TAB between columns in each line. You will create 4 columns but the important thing is to use a TAB spacing. I hope that helps.

[Revid]

Here is packerfans updated rules text file with correct spacing.
http://rapidshare.de/files/1287828/6max_autorate.txt.html

[cartman]

How do export this stuff into your notes?

Thanks,
Cartman

[banditdad]

[ QUOTE ]
Here is packerfans updated rules text file with correct spacing.
http://rapidshare.de/files/1287828/6max_autorate.txt.html

[/ QUOTE ]

This just seems to take me to the rapidshare website.

[banditdad]

Overall I like your criteria. I think your aggression factor is low for 6 handed. I'm using DriveTT criteria for full ring games and the aggression factor is higher.

[milesmode]

Here's a trick I got from the PT forum for creating an autorate file with the correct spacing from rules posted here. Click the "quote button above the post, and you'll get the text with the correct tabs, then copy and paste into a new text file. Voila!

[partygirluk]

When you are doing this do you filter out all hand with less than 4 people in?