Comments on this hand please

[beckham9]

besides this hand one other question: Will Bison Bison update his convertor to convert the locally stored hand histories to pretty format too?




***** Hand History for Game 981014834 *****
$100 NL Hold'em - Thursday, September 23, 22:37:31 EDT 2004
Table antiquity (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Bluetiger25 ( $430.35 )
Seat 2: thenew007 ( $102 )
Seat 3: unknown1969 ( $115.15 )
Seat 4: BirdMan_22 ( $150 )
Seat 5: candella44 ( $71.35 )
Seat 6: mc2442 ( $52.35 )
Seat 7: sawyer24 ( $403.45 )
Seat 8: Gabbaguu ( $85.95 )
Seat 9: W00dChuck ( $107 )
Seat 10: jules_ill ( $100 )
sawyer24 posts small blind [$1].
Gabbaguu posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to jules_ill [ Tc Ac ]
jules_ill: guess so
W00dChuck folds.
jules_ill calls [$2].
Bluetiger25 folds.
thenew007 calls [$2].
unknown1969 folds.
BirdMan_22 folds.
sawyer24: so u can tell me terrible play all u want...i jst took over $120 from u in 1 hand
jules_ill: maybe i need to work that play into my repetoire
candella44 calls [$2].
mc2442 calls [$2].
sawyer24 calls [$1].
Gabbaguu checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ad, 8c, 5c ]
sawyer24: bet like a man and get me out of the hand if u dont wnt me on a draw
sawyer24 checks.
jules_ill: so you mean 60 wasnt enough?
sawyer24: not when i bet 30
Gabbaguu checks.
jules_ill bets [$4].
thenew007 folds.
candella44 raises [$8].
mc2442 folds.
sawyer24 folds.
Gabbaguu folds.
jules_ill calls [$4].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7s ]
jules_ill checks.
candella44 bets [$20].
jules_ill calls [$20].
** Dealing River ** [ 9h ]
jules_ill checks.
candella44 bets [$15].
jules_ill calls [$15].
candella44 shows [ As, 7d ] two pairs, aces and sevens.
jules_ill doesn't show [ Tc, Ac ] a pair of aces.
candella44 wins $95 from the main pot with two pairs, aces and sevens.
jesus

[amoeba]

I would all-in on the flop.

[beta1607]

I would push as well, absent that at least make a stronger reraise to try to take the pot right there.

[Tilt]

First, I have to disagree with the the advice of all-in on the flop. You could easily stumble into trips that way. Why commit $70 into a pot of $14 when the only way you are called is if you are an underdog? Sure, you could win the pot that way, but its not about winning lots of pots. Its about winning the big pots at the right time.

You could reraise 10 on the flop...I think that would be +EV and might earn you a free card from a 2 pair. But if you get called and then subsequently miss your flush, don't call. You should assume that your top pair medium kicker is beat. Why would he be betting 20 and then 15 with less than TPTK? Unless you know he is a superaggressive bluffer, fold.

And when you called 20 on the turn and you knew you were probably behind, why do that? Pot is 50 with 20 to go, and you should figure 9-13 outs. - EV, I think.

[amoeba]

while your argument has some merit, I don't believe if the villain had the set, he would minraise. If the villain raised on the flop to say 20. I would probably advocate a call. But since he only minraised, I like the push better.