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Prevaricator
09-22-2004, 08:32 PM
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (8 handed)

Hero ($471.15)
UTG ($243.65)
UTG+1 ($156.35)
MP1 ($187)
MP2 ($38)
CO ($129.30)
Button ($53.05)
SB ($188.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls $2, UTG+1 calls $2, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $2, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, UTG calls $10, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls $10.

Flop: ($39) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets $30</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG raises to $231.65</font>, MP2 calls $26 (All-In), Hero folds.

Without a read, how many people call here?

The4thFilm
09-22-2004, 08:41 PM
I'd fold too.

Sponger15SB
09-22-2004, 08:57 PM
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I'd fold too.

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I'd fold as well, although I'd be pissed when at the showdown against the all in player he turned up a flush draw.

Under Control
09-22-2004, 10:47 PM
This really depends on the player. Getting raised on a raggedy flop with that preflop action usually means a set, but a couple things here suggest otherwise. The board is paired, lowering the number of likely holdings that beat you to four (3 77s and one 88 limp pf, call a raise, and like that flop), there is a flush draw (people LOOOOVE the allin on the flop with flush draw and overcards), and he raised much larger than most people would with the set. From the average PP player (I play 50 NL), I think this would be KQc or AQc a pretty large percentage of the time. However, against a good player who respects you (which he would because of your 4.7 buyin stack), I would suspect you are badly beaten here. 6 BB opens from good players in the blinds scream high pocket pair to me, and your follow through on the raggedy flop fits with aces/kings/queens. Because of this, he moves in with his 7x or 88 and figures to bust you.