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Guido

09-22-2004, 04:27 PM

I just finished an other and probably my last (for a while) session at 10/20. I need to steal raise and defend my blinds more so most of these hands will go about that but there are some other hands as well

 Hand 1 
Normally I wouldn't raise 44 in the CO but I need to steal raise more so I did raise this time. Most of the time I would 3-bet the turn but this time I went for a check-raise on the river when that was a blank.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 4 handed)

Preflop: Guido is UTG with 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
Guido raises, Button calls, SB calls, 1 fold.

Flop: (7 SB) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Guido bets, Button raises, SB folds, Guido 3-bets, Button calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Guido bets, Button raises, Guido calls.

River: (10.50 BB) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Guido checks, Button bets, Guido calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

Hand 2 
Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed)

SB is the same opponent in this hand as the button in hand 1. Which he won with QJo BTW.

Preflop: Guido is Button with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
1 fold, MP calls, Guido raises, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, MP calls, Guido caps, SB calls, MP calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
SB checks, MP checks, Guido bets, SB raises, MP calls, Guido calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
SB bets, MP folds, Guido calls.

River: (11.50 BB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
SB bets, Guido calls.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB

 Hand 3
BB and SB both call almost any two in the blinds. Probably standard hand.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 4 handed)

Preflop: Guido is Button with 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
1 fold, Guido raises, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Guido raises, SB calls, BB 3-bets, Guido caps, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Guido bets, BB calls.

River: (10 BB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Guido bets, BB calls.

Final Pot: 12 BB

 Hand 4 
Should I fold the river?
Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 4 handed)

Preflop: Guido is UTG with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
Guido raises, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Guido bets, Button calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Guido bets, Button raises, Guido calls.

River: (7.75 BB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Guido checks, Button bets, Guido calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB

 Hand 5 
Should I fold the turn? or river?
Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed)

Preflop: Guido is MP with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
1 fold, Guido raises, 1 fold, SB calls, 1 fold.

Flop: (5 SB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Guido bets, SB calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Guido bets, SB raises, Guido calls.

River: (7.50 BB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets, Guido calls.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

 Hand 6 
Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed)

Preflop: Guido is UTG with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
Guido raises, 2 folds, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Guido bets, Button calls, BB calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Guido checks, Button bets, BB folds, Guido folds.

Final Pot: 5.75 BB

 Hand 7
Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed)

Preflop: Guido is Button with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
3 folds, Guido raises, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Guido bets, BB calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Guido bets, BB raises, Guido 3-bets, BB calls.

River: (9.25 BB) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Guido bets, BB raises, Guido calls.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB

 Hand 8 
Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed)

Preflop: Guido is MP with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
1 fold, Guido raises, 2 folds, SB calls, 1 fold.

Flop: (5 SB) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets, Guido folds.

Final Pot: 3 BB

Hand 9 
SB defends with a lot.
Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed)

Preflop: Guido is SB with 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
3 folds, Guido raises, BB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Guido bets, BB raises, Guido 3-bets, BB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Guido bets, BB calls.

River: (7 BB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Guido bets, BB raises, Guido calls.

Final Pot: 11 BB

 Hand 10
Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed)

Preflop: Guido is BB with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG raises, 1 fold, Button calls, SB calls, Guido 3-bets, UTG calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (12 SB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players)
SB checks, Guido checks, UTG checks, Button bets, SB raises, Guido folds, UTG folds, Button calls.

I just requested every hand I wasn't sure about when I played it. Not only the once I lost. I did lose all of these hands though /images/graemlins/mad.gif.

Thanks,

Guido

Nate tha' Great

09-22-2004, 05:18 PM

1. I'd be happy to see the turn capped. Two pair or a straight draw that paired up is far more likely than being up against a bigger, better, made hand. The river is not a blank, though.

2. I think you probably have to play it this way against an opponent whom you know to be a little bit of a LAG.

3. I'll usually wait to raise a blank on the turn since I can't protect my hand acting last and since I can usually collect a bunch of big bets that way.

4. With two overcards I fold this. The only thing that you're hoping for is some kind of semi-bluff with Tx, but that is somewhat less likely with two of the T's in your hand.

5. This one is close. It's a better semibluffing board but you don't have all that much of a hand. It would really depend on my opponent reads / table image.

6. I would bet again on the turn. You'd think that Button would have raised the flop with a Q. This flop will invite calls from a pretty good variety of hands; you may have the best hand here and giving a free card here is bad against two opponents. I think you let the Button steal one.

7. Fine. I probably don't 3-bet if the turn doesn't put two to a flush on the board.

8. Fine.

9. Sometimes I'll just call the flop with the intention of check-raising the turn but I don't think it makes a huge difference. In realtime I'd probably bet the river but it isn't a bad spot for a check-call since you look to be headed to a split at best and some tricksters like me will wait until the river to raise with trips when heads up (however, you also have to call the raise since a weak ace will like the high card that nullifies most kickers).

10. I would probably bet the flop and proceed carefully, in particular watching for something like an SB cold call. Remember that a low pair on the board makes it *less* likely that anyone has hit anything. Against a J, you have overcards plus backdoor flush outs.

tripdad

09-22-2004, 05:22 PM

there are really no terribly costly mistakes in these hands that would make me think you aren't a winning player.

a couple things...1) you say you don't raise w/ 44 usually from C/O. why not? ....2) hand 9 you can check/call turn and river...3) you can bet out in hand 10 with 2 overs and a backdoor flush draw...4) almost missed this, but you really can safely fold on the river here...5) i fire another bet on the turn here in hand 6, then check/call the river if met with no resistance.

why not give us some winning hands...maybe you aren't getting as much as you could out of those. it is looking to me like you are making 2nd best hand too often, and there isn't much you can do about that.

cheers!

Guido

09-22-2004, 05:32 PM

1. I agree, I think I would 3-bet about 90% of the time here.

3. Ok, so you don't play these hands fast? Something I almost always did in full ring games.

4. Does the fact that the river was a J change your decision? I called because it's less likely he has a J too so only a Q beats me. When the river wasn't a J I would fold for sure.

9. I agree about the river play.

10. Ok, I planned to check-call or see what happened.

Thanks a lot,

Guido

Nate tha' Great

09-22-2004, 05:44 PM

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3. Ok, so you don't play these hands fast? Something I almost always did in full ring games.

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Last to act with a bettor and one or two callers in front of me I will usually just call the flop with a big, concealed hand. If I'm lucky enough to have a bettor and say three callers then I'll go ahead and raise to get everyone pot-stuck. I don't think it makes a huge amount of difference either way.

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4. Does the fact that the river was a J change your decision? I called because it's less likely he has a J too so only a Q beats me. When the river wasn't a J I would fold for sure.

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It only reduces the chances of his having a J by 1/3 and you're still behind any Q, as well as some plausible bigger hands.

Guido

09-22-2004, 05:45 PM

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you say you don't raise w/ 44 usually from C/O. why not?

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Probably because 22-66 are all losers for me and I find it hard to play them postflop with all those overcards. Do you bet a 79K flop?

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hand 9 you can check/call turn and river

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I agree.

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hand 9 you can check/call turn and river

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I decided to see what happened. I would bet out a lot of the time too.

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almost missed this, but you really can safely fold on the river here

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Has the fact that the river is a J any influence on your decision? I would fold when the river was an other card.

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i fire another bet on the turn here in hand 6, then check/call the river if met with no resistance.

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I agree, because of the talk about betting with overcards in the other post I played this one too weak.

Thanks,

Guido

tripdad

09-22-2004, 06:21 PM

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Probably because 22-66 are all losers for me and I find it hard to play them postflop with all those overcards. Do you bet a 79K flop?

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79A would be better, but 79K will do. your opponents are many times calling with JT and such, and are afraid of Aces and Kings. i win with all pairs except 22 (only very slight loser, whereas would normally be more of a loser probably). i don't like needing a set to win with a made hand, so now i raise with all pairs from any position. before i started this strategy, i lost with 22-66 as well, and i really am a believer in this.

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Has the fact that the river is a J any influence on your decision? I would fold when the river was an other card.

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why does this make a difference to you? i think you may be way overthinking this one.

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i fire another bet on the turn here in hand 6, then check/call the river if met with no resistance.

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I agree, because of the talk about betting with overcards in the other post I played this one too weak.

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in this case, you have a BD flush and odds to call one bet, so you must therefore bet and not be pushed out with a C/R by SB.

cheers!

Guido

09-22-2004, 06:27 PM

I don't think 22-55 are profitable in EP when you raise. In LP they probably are and I should raise more with these.

I probably am overthinking the TT hand.

I was talking about the turn in the AKo hand, seems like you are talking about the flop because of the BD flush which isn't there anymore on the turn.

Thanks,

Guido

tripdad

09-22-2004, 06:43 PM

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I was talking about the turn in the AKo hand, seems like you are talking about the flop because of the BD flush which isn't there anymore on the turn.

Thanks,

Guido

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/images/graemlins/confused.gif /images/graemlins/confused.giftoo many hands!!!! AAAHHHHHH!!!LOL. you are right. however, i still bet here. until i meet resistance, i feel i may have the best hand.

cheers!