Tough run at $100 max $0.50/$1.00 NL..

[RYL]

I originally had $111 when I started playing $50 max $0.25/$0.50 NL. I got that up to $1132.95 after about 9700 hands within a week (9/6/04-9/12/04). I decided to move up to $100 max $0.50/$1.00 NL on 9/12/04. Everything was going great. I went as I high as 1600 before I started tumbling. I don't know want happened. I think people started getting good reads on me or I was just playing too many tables. Whatever the case may be, I went all the way down to $350 today (3/21/04) after around 15,000 hands. This really shook my confidence. I have decided to set a new goal for myself. Since I was so successful playing $50 Max $0.25/$0.50, I'm going to go back down to that level and work my way back up again. This time, I'm going play at least 40,000 hands at $50 max $0.25/$0.50 NL and build my bankroll to at least $4000 before I play $100 max $0.50/$1.00 NL. Fortunately today I got it up to $400 after 259 hands. I'll keep you guys posted on how my results go. By the way, what are your preflop percentages? Mine is around 40%.

[BlueBear]

You're referring to full or short table games? Assuming it's full table games, 40% hands preflop does sound WAY too high (I would classify that as very loose). I certainly don't play well enough post-flop to justify playing such a wide variety of hands.

[Yeknom58]

" By the way, what are your preflop percentages? Mine is around 40%. "

This is way too loose and it's not even close. In the long term you will never see a winning player with a 40% preflop percentage. Most winning players see aroung 17-25% of flops. Even 25% is getting pretty loose and to be a winner you have to play well post flop and trust me, everyone thinks they play well post flop.

[Sponger15SB]

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I originally had $111 when I started playing $50 max $0.25/$0.50 NL.

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Bad Idea #1

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I decided to move up to $100 max $0.50/$1.00 NL on 9/12/04.

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Bad Idea #2

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Everything was going great. I went as I high as 1600 before I started tumbling.

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Winning 6 buy ins isn't great.

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I think people started getting good reads on me

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no they didn't, not enough people at that low of a limit know what reads are

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or I was just playing too many tables.


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this seems to be a good cause. you played 9700 hands in a week with a small bankroll and you were multitabling, and you seem inexperienced as well since you said you started like 3 weeks ago.

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Whatever the case may be, I went all the way down to $350 today (3/21/04) after around 15,000 hands.


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hahahahaha, puhlease.

http://sponger15sb.bravehost.com/Poker.JPG


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This really shook my confidence. I have decided to set a new goal for myself. Since I was so successful playing $50 Max $0.25/$0.50, I'm going to go back down to that level and work my way back up again. This time, I'm going play at least 40,000 hands at $50 max $0.25/$0.50 NL and build my bankroll to at least $4000 before I play $100 max $0.50/$1.00 NL. Fortunately today I got it up to $400 after 259 hands. I'll keep you guys posted on how my results go.

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ah ha! a good idea

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what are your preflop percentages? Mine is around 40%.

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WHOA WHOA WHOA! 40%?!?!? I play full ring and I'm like dying to play more than 15% of my hands.

[RYL]

I guess I'm a loose goose. Definitely gonna lower my preflop percentages.

[GimmeDaWatch]

Ya good luck on the demotion tip. Usually 20 buy-ins+ is a good idea before moving up. When you say 40% is that in a full ring game and including the blinds or 6-max? Since you said you're playing 100BB buy-ins Im assuming its a full game at Stars or UB or something? Obviously, as with most things Poker is a long term thing and you really need 50-100K hands to get a decent gauge on how you're stacking up against the competition at any given limit. As a side note to Sponger if you read this, why do you play the full games on Party out of curiosity? Have you noticed the play being alot tighter on the full tables than in the 6-max? I dont play the 100NL, but this certainly seems to be the case at the 50 and 25.

[RYL]

Let me clarify. I play with a full table (9 players). The preflop percentages INCLUDE BB and SB and I play ring games.

[Wayfare]

I really don't think you need 40x the buy in at any level. I think that might retard your earnings by a significant amount.

That is a rather large downswing though.

[Sponger15SB]

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As a side note to Sponger if you read this, why do you play the full games on Party out of curiosity? Have you noticed the play being alot tighter on the full tables than in the 6-max? I dont play the 100NL, but this certainly seems to be the case at the 50 and 25.


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I play in the full games because I have found that I am just not loose enough in 6-max to make it as profitable as I want, also, I can 8 table full ring pretty easily.

And yes, I have definantly noticed that the full ring is very tight, however if you can get your PFR to up around 7% (i'm not there yet), I think people will stop laying EVERYTHING (BAH) down.

Also, I am not playing $100NL anymore, I moved down to $50NL for awhile after I took a big chunk of my bankroll out to secure my finances for the next month, then hit a bad streak, and now I'm getting ready to move back up in a few days. However I feel this is good for me, because I was just making my first jump into 1) 8 tabling 2) full ring. So the practice is needed (11k hands in a week doesn't hurt either).

In 11k hands at $50NL full ring, I've got a 31.1 SF%

[Wayfare]

Sponger, he means he lost 13 buy ins at the $100 tables. That trumps your picture by several-fold.

[fimbulwinter]

then you're too loose for sure. tighten up and you'll reduce variance and add EV.