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joker122

09-21-2004, 02:37 AM

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
3 folds, Hero raises, MP2 3-bets, 1 fold, CO caps, Button calls, 2 folds, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (17.40 SB) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players)
Hero ?

cold_cash

09-21-2004, 02:41 AM

I think I'd check to see what the Button does when it's 2 bets to him. People who cold-call a cap pre-flop scare me.

sthief09

09-21-2004, 02:44 AM

close your eyes and try to lose as little as possible, en route to seeing a showdown. if an A or a K slide off, you're screwed.

go back to 15/30. it made me happy responding to that post.

joker122

09-21-2004, 02:46 AM

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go back to 15/30. it made me happy responding to that post.

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HAHA, why is that?

I'm not ready for that game - I just wanted to try it out.

sthief09

09-21-2004, 02:48 AM

I spend a lot of time here, and I respond to your hand posts and you respond to mine, and it's nice to see some of us reaching the ultimate goal of 15/30.

joker122

09-21-2004, 02:50 AM

Yeah, it's going to be cool when we're both regulars there. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

sthief09

09-21-2004, 02:57 AM

I don't see that happening, as long as I continue to play 3 hours a week. I've played under 40k hands since I got PT on March 1.

Joe826

09-21-2004, 03:01 AM

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I'm not ready for that game - I just wanted to try it out.

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you don't think so? i do, but mostly because i think i'm ready for it (but just barely) and i think we play about the same. i may just have no idea what i'm talking about heh. i've played around 4k hands there and things have been going really well. it's definetly not the cakewalk that some players make it out to be though.

Joe826

09-21-2004, 03:04 AM

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I don't see that happening, as long as I continue to play 3 hours a week.

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just curious, but why can't you get in more time than this? you just don't want to? seems like if you were playing 1-2 tables just while posting on the forums you'd get some good hours in heheh.

sthief09

09-21-2004, 03:17 AM

I have lots of reasons/excuses. the main one is that I post when I should be doing something else. I do it to procrastinate. right now I should be sleeping. at 1, I said I'd go to sleep,b ut now its over 2 hours later and I'm still posting. I can't use playing as a method of procrastination, because it's involving. if I were to just get my [censored] done, and sleep for more than 4 hours, I wouldn't have any reason to procrastinate, and I'd play with all my free time. currently, I have no free time, because I'm constantly procrastinating, which technically isn't free time, because I'm SUPPOSED TO be doing something else.

jasonHoldEm

09-21-2004, 03:20 AM

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currently, I have no free time, because I'm constantly procrastinating, which technically isn't free time, because I'm SUPPOSED TO be doing something else.

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This pretty much sums up my last year...

Evan

09-21-2004, 03:20 AM

That whole procrastination speech made perfect sense to me. College is great.

InchoateHand

09-21-2004, 03:33 AM

College?
I just heard a perfect description of my grad school career--amply evidenced by the fact that I turned of Party two and a half hours ago, and I'm still posting now.

AdamL

09-21-2004, 03:33 AM

Just how much better are the players at 15/30 compared to 3/6?

sthief09

09-21-2004, 03:45 AM

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College?
I just heard a perfect description of my grad school career--amply evidenced by the fact that I turned of Party two and a half hours ago, and I'm still posting now.

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...drunk

InchoateHand

09-21-2004, 03:48 AM

Me or you? Because I know about me already.

sthief09

09-21-2004, 03:48 AM

you

InchoateHand

09-21-2004, 03:53 AM

Indeed. My typographic errors are a dead give-away.

sthief09

09-21-2004, 03:54 AM

that and you writing "mabye I shouldn't post drunk" in your thread

bisonbison

09-21-2004, 03:55 AM

Encyclopedia Brown solves another case.

Joe826

09-21-2004, 04:23 AM

this post hits so close to home that it was actually difficult to laugh heh.

Joe826

09-21-2004, 04:25 AM

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Just how much better are the players at 15/30 compared to 3/6?

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in general, the games are much tougher.

Trix

09-21-2004, 06:00 AM

check and see what happens.

joker122

09-21-2004, 05:10 PM

Since thief decided to turn this thread into confessions of poor time management in college I doubt anyone will be interested in the results /images/graemlins/smirk.gif Nevertheless:

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
3 folds, Hero raises, MP2 3-bets, 1 fold, CO caps, Button calls, 2 folds, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (17.40 SB) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, CO calls, Button calls, Hero raises, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Turn: (12.70 BB) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls, CO folds, Button folds.

River: (14.70 BB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 16.70 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has Qs Qh (one pair, queens).
MP2 has Ac Kc (one pair, aces).
Outcome: MP2 wins 16.70 BB. 

I hate my river bet.

colgin

09-21-2004, 06:03 PM

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I hate my river bet.

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Why? I only don't like this bet if your opponent is capable of bluff-raising you and getting you to lay down the better hand. Otherwise it seems fine to me. Sure, you may be an underdog when you are called, but I think this is one of those instances where you are a bigger dog when you check and your opponent bets.

AdamL

09-21-2004, 06:34 PM

In that case, should you bet the river and fold to a raise?

colgin

09-21-2004, 09:27 PM

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In that case, should you bet the river and fold to a raise?

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I make this bet on the river against the type of person against whom I can fold to a raise (there are many such players out there). If the player is capable of bluff raising then you are probably better off checking and hoping to induce a bluff in the first instance.