Flopping a Monster - How to Extract Value?

[Tron]

How did I do on this one? Is there anything I could have done to have gotten some mo' money?

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Preflop: Hero is CO with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, Hero calls, Button folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (3 BB) A/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 folds, MP2 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds, MP2 calls.

River: (5 BB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 7 BB

[zuluking]

Is this a trick question?

[xanderm]

bet the flop.

[Entity]

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How did I do on this one? Is there anything I could have done to have gotten some mo' money?


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Betting the flop would be a start.

Then betting / raising the turn. Then betting the river.

People are more likely to call with weak hands on the flop than they are on the turn. You probably only missed 1-1.5BB here, but it adds up over time. Don't try to get tricky. Just bet.

Rob

[MagicRat]

I don't know if it would have gotten you any more $$ but once the flop is checked around to you I think you have to bet here. You're likely to still get some calls for just 1 SB and if not, you weren't gonna make $$ on this hand anyway. Also, I'd hate to see a 10 or J fall for free that might leave you with a split pot.

[frank_iii]

I agree with the others. Bet the flop. Hope someone has a nice 2nd hand. It's unlikely that the players who would fold to a flop bet wouldn't just fold on the turn, too. Plus, you'll earn a few bets from the people who will call a small bet to see one more card.

[k000k]

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People are more likely to call with weak hands on the flop than they are on the turn. You probably only missed 1-1.5BB here, but it adds up over time. Don't try to get tricky. Just bet.

Rob

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Not to mention that if you DO bet the flop and get a few callers, there'll be more $$ in the pot, which will encourage more calling later.. If there was 6BB in the pot instead of 3, you mighta got another caller or 2 on the turn. A lot of players will chase for 1 SB what they won't for 1 BB. I understand you want to let players improve a little, but if anyone misses this flop, it's a hella scary flop.. That turn ace didn't help anything. Noone had anything, so you got no action.. Them's the breaks,

[challenger84]

Here's how to extract maximum value from your great hands:

bet/raise/cap flop
bet/raise/cap turn
bet/raise/cap river

As a great NPA once said "They will call. They don't know they're drawing dead. Even if they did, half of them would probably still call." Or something like that.

[bisonbison]

Fold preflop. Your flop check is an abomination.

[easypete]

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Fold preflop. Your flop check is an abomination.

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Hmmmm.... Fold preflop w/ 3 limpers and position? In a .5/1? I would much rather it be on the button, but I'm still limping here.

As for the flop.... BET!!!! While limping/folding here is a close decision.... Checking/Betting the flop is NOT even Close!!! BET! The turn card is beautiful for you... if someone has an Ace, the will probably c/r you (so you can 3-bet).

[radek2166]

Wheres the monster?

[Tron]

Harsh words... But they are all greatly appreciated. Thanks to everyone for their responses. Except maybe the sarcastic ones. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Tron]

Luckily I had a chance to take all your advice today... I think I did MUCH better...

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
BB calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, Hero calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button calls, SB (poster) checks.

Flop: (4 SB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, SB folds, BB calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls, BB calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, BB calls.

River: (12 BB) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls $0.65 (All-In).

Final Pot: 15.65 BB

Results in white below: <font color="white">
BB has Jd Td (one pair, tens).
Hero has Ks Jh (straight, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins 15.65 BB. </font>

[Goon2]

The more bluffing succeeds on the WSOP telecasts, the more times we see this terrific play from the fish.

[frank_iii]

Well done. You might have a few people suggesting a raise first in from MP2, though.