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juanez
09-19-2004, 10:16 PM
I'm sort of tired of people saying "I'm an Independent", like it's an authentic political affiliation of some kind. And it usually comes with a smug "I'm above the fray because I'm not swayed by the politics of the 2 major parties" kind of attitude. Bullsh*t. I agreee with Mike's analysis below. Yes, there are several Minor Parties (http://www.dcpoliticalreport.com/PartyLink.htm#NL) with the word "Independent" in their name, but there isn't a significant national "Independant Party" that I'm aware of.

The author is Mike Rosen, Denver Post columnist and radio talk show host on 850 KOA: Mike Rosen (http://www.850koa.com/shows/rosen/party-trumps-person.html#trumps)

Why Party Trumps Person
August 13, 2004

With just 80 days to go before the election, it's time for my quadrennial column on party vs. person. I've been offering and updating this polemic for more than 20 years. For veteran voters, this may be review; for rookies, perhaps, a new concept.

A time-honored cliche heard every election year goes something like this: "I'm an independent thinker; I vote the person, not the party." This pronouncement is supposed to demonstrate open-mindedness and political sophistication on the part of the pronouncer. It's your vote, cast it any way you like - or not at all. But idealism and naivete about the way our electoral process and system of government works shouldn't be mistaken for wisdom or savvy.

For better or worse, we have a two-party system. And party trumps person. Either a Republican, George W. Bush, or a Democrat, John Kerry, is going to be elected president in November. No one else has a chance.

Not Ralph Nader, not the Libertarian candidate, nor the Communist, nor the Green. Minor party candidates are sometimes spoilers - like Nader costing Gore the presidency in 2000 - but they don't win presidential elections. Ross Perot got 20 million popular votes in 1992, and exactly zero Electoral College votes.

In Europe's multiparty, parliamentary democracies, governing coalitions are formed after an election. In our constitutional republic, the coalitions are formed first.

The Republican coalition includes, for the most part, middle- and upper-income taxpayers (but not leftist Hollywood millionaires and George Soros), individualists who prefer limited government, pro-market and pro-business forces, believers in American exceptionalism and a strong national defense, social-issues conservatives and supporters of traditional American values.

The Democratic coalition is an alliance of collectivists, labor unions (especially the teachers' unions), government workers, academics, plaintiffs-lawyers, lower- and middle-income net tax-receivers, most minorities, feminists, gays, enviros, and activists for various anti-capitalist, anti-business, anti-military, anti-gun, one-world causes.

I say party trumps person because regardless of the individual occupying the White House, the coalition will be served.

A Democratic president, whether a liberal or a moderate (conservative Democrats, if any still exist, can't survive the nominating process), can operate only within the political boundaries of his party and its coalition. The party that wins the presidency gets to staff all the discretionary positions in the executive and judicial branches of government. Members of its coalition are awarded vital policy-making government jobs, judgeships, ambassadorships and appointments to boards and commissions, as well as a host of plum jobs handed out to those who have political IOUs to cash in.

A vote for Bush is a vote for the Republican agenda and conservative players in key posts. A vote for Kerry is a vote for the influence of the National Education Association, the National Organization for Women, the American Civil Liberties Union and the likes of Al Sharpton and Michael Moore.

The legislative branch is no different. After the individual members of a new Congress have been seated, a figurative nose count is taken and the party with the most noses wins. That victory carries with it control of all committee and subcommittee chairmanships, the locus of legislative power.

Now, let's say you're a registered Republican voter who clearly prefers the Republican philosophy of governance. And you're a good-natured, well-intentioned person who happens to like an individual Democrat, a Senate candidate, who's somewhat conservative. You decide to cross party lines and vote for him.

As it turns out, he wins, beating a Republican and giving the Democrats a one-vote majority, 51-49, in the U.S. Senate.

Congratulations! You just got Ted Kennedy, Patrick Leahy, Dianne Feinstein and Hillary Clinton as key committee chairs, and a guarantee that your Republican legislative agenda will be stymied.

That's the way the process works. Does this mean that in a two-party system like ours it comes down to choosing between the lesser of two evils? You bet it does. That's not to say that either party is really "evil," that's just an expression.

If we had 280 million custom-tailored minor parties, everyone could find his perfect match.

But that's not practical.

You can be a purist and cast your vote symbolically with a boutique party, or be a player and settle for the least imperfect of the Republican or Democrat alternatives. Your vote, your choice.

sam h
09-19-2004, 10:41 PM
People have done studies that have shown that when voters who self-identify as independent are asked which way they generally lean, their response is a very, very strong predictor of vote choice. In this sense, "independence" is largely a myth in America.

Charming how Rosen mixes his "it's your choice" simplicity with exaggeration and duplicity concerning the Democrats and interest groups who support them. It's basically a scare piece disguised as an analysis of the consequences of the party system.

CCass
09-19-2004, 10:42 PM
An excellent article that sums up my own thoughts better than I could.

jdl22
09-19-2004, 10:58 PM
The writers party preference is made pretty clear and he drastically oversimplifies the left. Another interesting thing he does that many columnests on both sides do is attempting to make the other side look extreme. Those are my problems with this article.

However, overall it is good. The thesis that one should always vote for members of the party one sides with is a good one. The line that stuck out for me because I hadn't thought of it that way is:
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In Europe's multiparty, parliamentary democracies, governing coalitions are formed after an election. In our constitutional republic, the coalitions are formed first.

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I lived in Spain during the 2000 elections. There you don't even vote for the candidates you just choose the party and all those people get chosen. There is almost always a plurality because the smaller parties are able to get a reasonable share of the vote. These parties then get some of their agenda pushed through by joining a coalition with the larger party closest to their persuasion. This system seems much better. Thinking about it as the author has our system isn't so far removed from that as one would originally think.

The Dude
09-20-2004, 01:53 AM
I think this year we are going to see a ton more 3rd party votes than we have ever before. And the number of people I personally know that are fed up with the two party system is growing rather quickly.

I doubt the two party system will be so dominant in a couple decades.

nothumb
09-20-2004, 02:28 AM
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A vote for Bush is a vote for the Republican agenda and conservative players in key posts. A vote for Kerry is a vote for the influence of the National Education Association, the National Organization for Women, the American Civil Liberties Union and the likes of Al Sharpton and Michael Moore.


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This is great. "Vote for Bush and he will carry out an agenda and appoint people. Vote for Kerry and some negro and a fat slob will inform all policy." He doesn't actually mention what the Republican agenda is, nor does he acknowledge that a vote for Bush in 2000 didn't net the exact agenda it was supposed to (not that they usually do).

Yeah, this guy makes a point about how the two party system works, but he mixes it in with so much partisan crap it's silly. What makes it especially reek is that he's talking about how 'independent' thinking is so ineffectual, while pretending to give a non-partisan analysis of a situation, which is actually a deeply partisan piece of bilge. He was, without directly saying so, appropriating the supposed credibility of independent analysis to serve a partisan cause.

I haven't gone to this guy's bio yet, but does he look anything like Bill O'Reilly?

NT