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blackaces13
09-17-2004, 10:20 PM
reads: MP2 raised and capped A2o earlier and I made the note "raises and caps any Ace pre-f".

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. CO posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, CO (poster) calls, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (17.50 SB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, CO folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (14.75 BB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks.

River: (14.75 BB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 16.75 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 16.75 BB, between MP2 and Hero.</font>

AncientPC
09-18-2004, 01:04 AM
I'd only call pre-flop.

Flop: fine

Turn: I'd bet out.

River: I'd bet out if turn wasn't raised.

blackaces13
09-18-2004, 01:24 AM
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I'd only call pre-flop.


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Why would you only call pre-f against a guy you've already witnessed cap with A2o?

btspider
09-18-2004, 01:26 AM
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I'd only call pre-flop.


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Why would you only call pre-f against a guy you've already witnessed cap with A2o?

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you are out of position.
it isn't heads-up.
he'll cap Ax.

AJo isn't the greatest hand 4-way. dodge Q and K high flops and then isolate this guy.

blackaces13
09-18-2004, 02:19 AM
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it isn't heads-up.
he'll cap Ax.


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I don't understand. The others are being strung along and I have no reason to believe that my AJ isn't the best hand, and I may get UTG/UTG+1 to fold.

As for the 2nd part, you seem to be making the case for 3-betting. He'll raise with any ace so there is about an 80% chance that I have him dominated if he does in fact have an Ace.

btspider
09-18-2004, 11:36 AM
the cap is fine if its heads-up. AJ isn't that dominating that you want it capped PF 4-way when you have the worst position. UTG+1 will be trapped and won't fold. CO might fold facing 2 more bets. what's your plan on a Kxx 2-flush flop? i'd just rather keep the pot smaller, dodge the scariest flops, and isolate the dominated hand on ragged flops. a 4-way cap just builds a pot that you or anyone else won't be able to get away from with a marginal holding.