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Danenania
09-17-2004, 03:42 AM
Here are some numbers from ~20k hands at Party 3/6. I'm only including the stats that I believe converge quickly enough to be worthy of discussion based on this fairly small sample. I'm particularly interested in my blinds play and whether, based on the relevant stats, it appears that I'm running well, running poorly, or running normal. I also included some quirky ones like avg hrs/session just because I'm interested in comparing. Thanks for comments.

VPIP: 15.28
PFR: 9.28
VPIPsb: 19.83

FSBSteal: 85.00
FBBSteal: 63.28
FBBStealHU: 59.09
AttSteal: 23.94

W$SF: 32.31
WSD: 29.56
W$SD: 57.12

AFflop: 3.98
AFturn: 3.31
AFriver: 2.64
AFtotal: 3.19

AVGhrs/session: .77
StdDeviation: 13.93 BB/100h

bisonbison
09-17-2004, 03:55 AM
Looks good.

You're a bit looser in the SB than I am, but it's hard to say either way.

Aggression looks good and high, but if you're winning that often at showdown you might be too tight postflop.

Bob T.
09-17-2004, 04:35 AM
where do you find standard deviation in pokertracker?

jrobb83
09-17-2004, 04:53 AM
Go to Session Notes, and click on the "more detail" button.

Bob T.
09-17-2004, 05:06 AM
thx

MAxx
09-17-2004, 09:30 AM
I am not sure about the ideal blind stats, but everything else look REAL solid to me.

If I was you, and this is just suggestion, I would look for additional oportunities to play some more PPs and Axs in ep/mp if you dont already. Not all the time, but when table conditions are aight.

RED_RAIN
09-17-2004, 11:57 AM
I'm not as many hands yet at this level as you but here are my to compare.

Hands: 8,655

VPIP: 15.11 (15.28)
PFR: 8.53 (9.28)
VPIPsb: 28.66 (19.83) [Is this bad for one of us, who?]

FSBSteal: 91.67 (85.00) [Am I too tight in the 3:1 structure?]
FBBSteal: 65.85 (63.28)
FBBStealHU: 68.42 (59.09) [Too high?]
AttSteal: 22.71 (23.94)

W$SF: 31.57 (32.31)
WSD: 31.79 (29.56)
W$SD: 54.66 (57.12)
[I wonder who is winning more with what combo here]

AFflop: 2.56 (3.98)
AFturn: 2.32 (3.31)
AFriver: 1.44 (2.64)
AFtotal: 2.01 (3.19)
[Wow your numbers are aggressive, perhaps I'm not even still]

AVGhrs/session: .30 (.77) [I feel it after 250-300 hands]
StdDeviation: 14.73 BB/100h (13.93 BB/100h) [Meaning?]

I know I'm looking at even a smaller sample but perhaps some indicators or at least more understanding of stats someone could help me with.

bisonbison
09-17-2004, 02:22 PM
Red, I think you're too loose in the SB for the 1/3 structure. What are your completing standards?

Everything else looks fine.

RED_RAIN
09-17-2004, 02:50 PM
I thought my standards for starting hands in SB were pretty good.

I don't complete Axo with 2 limpers or K9o with 2 limpers.

I will complete any 2 suited with at least 2 limpers (perhaps no good in 3:1).

I will complete most K8s and above if one limper, sometimes or perhaps most of the time Q8s and above with one limper. Will complete with K9o with one limper especially late.

I fold pretty easy to a raise in the SB.

bisonbison
09-17-2004, 02:52 PM
From what I've read here, you really have to treat the 1/3 SB differently than a 1/2 small blind. People have recommended using the same standards you'd use in the CO or Button, since the discount balances the crappy position.

For me, that means no Axo, no Kxo and no any 2 suited.

RED_RAIN
09-17-2004, 02:56 PM
Thanks for the suggestions.

I thought I had made the adjustment but I still am probably throwing into much money.

I will try these hand suggestions and see what happens.

Also, if we treat like CO or Button do we also consider same raising standards to a degree different because of our position or should we just limp with these more marginal positional raises we would do from CO and Button?

bisonbison
09-17-2004, 02:59 PM
I wish I could tell you, but I don't know.

Zetack
09-17-2004, 03:11 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Thanks for the suggestions.

I thought I had made the adjustment but I still am probably throwing into much money.

I will try these hand suggestions and see what happens.

Also, if we treat like CO or Button do we also consider same raising standards to a degree different because of our position or should we just limp with these more marginal positional raises we would do from CO and Button?

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm no expert on the one third small blind format, but my view would be no on the raises that you'd oridnarily make only from the button or cut-off. The positional advantage of the button plus the chance to knock out the blinds, (and for the cutoff, to buy the button) are what make some marginal raises possible there--obviously you don't have that going for you in the Sb.

--Zetack

MAxx
09-17-2004, 03:16 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Thanks for the suggestions.

I thought I had made the adjustment but I still am probably throwing into much money.

I will try these hand suggestions and see what happens.

Also, if we treat like CO or Button do we also consider same raising standards to a degree different because of our position or should we just limp with these more marginal positional raises we would do from CO and Button?

[/ QUOTE ]

I would approach this above idea for limping standards only. Of course you will raise some of the same hands you would raise from both, for example premium hands. However, you should not raise with some hands that you would from the button that would be considered positionally driven button raises in the sb b/c obviously you have bad position in SB. However, you sometimes have other reasons to consider when raising out of the sb- like steal raises, weak limper, etc.

I have not heard anyone else say this, but it is what I have assumed/ believe to correct and it makes sense to me.