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bisonbison
09-16-2004, 07:35 PM
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Preflop: Hero is CO with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. Hero posts a blind of $3.
<font color="666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero (poster) raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (14 SB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(7 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls, Button folds.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, Hero calls...

This is all rational, right? Big pot, not worth worrying about reverse domination?

Alobar
09-16-2004, 07:38 PM
I fold the turn. You prolly dont even have 3 clean outs.

bisonbison
09-16-2004, 11:25 PM
Al,

I think that closing the action here with just a Q and a backdoor flush draw on the board, it's not a bad call.

Anybody else?

Evan
09-16-2004, 11:28 PM
I think there's enough people in this pot that reverse domination is a real concern.

jacki
09-16-2004, 11:32 PM
anybody raise the flop to try to get a free river card?

Joe Tall
09-16-2004, 11:39 PM
Routine. Raise the river when you hit your over.

Peace,
Joe Tall

amerksmann22
09-16-2004, 11:59 PM
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Routine. Raise the river when you hit your over.

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What if the river is a spade?

Call is not bad because pot is big but if your A or K is dead and a flush draw is out. You might only have 2 clean outs but again you could have all six outs, not to mention if the bettor has a set in which case you are drawing dead. I usually lean towards calling here because pot is big but I have been drawing dead so often that I dont know if it is worth it.

Eihli
09-17-2004, 12:07 AM
The spade keeps you from being 3bet by 2pair or a set.

amerksmann22
09-17-2004, 12:09 AM
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The spade keeps you from being 3bet by 2pair or a set.

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That is horrible logic b/c that means you are raising and still losing, and if it were three bet you would fold anyways.

Eihli
09-17-2004, 12:24 AM
No, it means the times you are ahead you win 2 and the times you are behind you win 2. And since you'll be ahead here more often than not, you win more than if you just called.

Joe Tall
09-17-2004, 12:37 AM
What if the river is a spade?

Fear not the runner-runner flush.

Peace,
Joe Tall