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lacky
09-16-2004, 06:08 AM
I’m 10000 hands into my first ever attempt at playing 6 max. All hands are from 5/10 playing 6 tables. You guys are always saying AGGRESSIVE, but to be honest I feel like I’m playing like a psyco. It’s definitely fun, and the results are great so far but does it look like I’m over doing it? Also, am I calling down too much?

Thanks for the early check-up, all comments are appreciated.

Steve

Total hands: 10,056
VP$IP: 23.55%
VP$IP from SB: 32.20%
SF All hands: 30.41%
SF Not a Blind: 20.05%
Folded SB to Steal: 88.28%
Folded BB to Steal: 60.43%
Fold BB to Steal HU: 53.97%
Att to Steal Blinds: 35.97%
Won $ When Saw Flop: 40.88%
BB/100 hands: 4.11
Went to Showdown: 41.04%
Won $ at SD: 49.16%
Raised PF: 14.40%

When Folds Hand:
No Fold: 21.32%
Pre-flop: 67.04%
Flop: 7.24%
Turn: 2.84%
River: 1.55%

Folded to River Bet: 28.8%

Check Raises: total 1.8%
Flop: 49.62%
Turn: 43.51%
River: 6.87%

Aggression Factor:
Pre-flop: 1.24
Flop: 2.78
Turn: 2.69
River: 1.50
Total: 1.89

kiddo
09-16-2004, 06:35 AM
Are you playing 6 tables at same time? Im just about bying a new bigger monitor, playing 4 instead of 3.

Your stats looks good (they looks like mine /images/graemlins/smile.gif). But since you play a little loser then me preflop (mine: 21%) but is about as aggressive postflop I think winning 40% (38%) of seen flops and 4BB/100 (3BB, 140K hands) is a bit to good (3BB is decent in long run if you ask me /images/graemlins/crazy.gif). You have to be VERY aggressive to win 40% of flops seen in long run.

Maybe you should defend BB a little more against stealraises.

If you like to limp first in I suggest you watch those hands closely, I cant make them win.

lacky
09-16-2004, 09:58 AM
yeah, six table at the same time. I use 2 19" crt's that will do the 1200 x 1600 resolution and a dual video card. It makes for about 400 to 450 hands per hour. I would definately be happy with 3 BB/100 long term!

Steve

stripsqueez
09-16-2004, 11:27 AM
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Won $ When Saw Flop: 40.88%

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wow - i'll go out on a limb and predict that no-one with say 50,000+ hands in pokertracker of 5/10 6 max can beat 38% - even the huge rocks - from memory i went close over 12,000 odd hands but i also had a fat winrate

stripsqueez - chickenhawk

Grisgra
09-16-2004, 12:25 PM
I'm sure this has been asked before, but how in the hell do you do that? I mean, isn't it generally important whether Person X that you're in a hand with is the kind of guy that calls to the river with Ace-high vs is willing to fold middle pair on the turn? Whether he's bluffy or passive? How often you can trust his turn raises?

Just don't know how you guys play SH without keeping track of the player personalities.

lacky
09-16-2004, 02:44 PM
Agreed. It's a really small sample so the numbers will change alot still. I'm just trying to see if I'm making any obvious beginner mistakes

lacky
09-16-2004, 03:00 PM
You’re right, I would make more at that table if I were tracking the play. But overall, you can make more playing massive amounts of hands in a straightforward manner. I keep track of the good vs. bad players when I have enough hands in poker tracker to tell and that’s about it. Then I try to stay at tables with bad players and leave tables with too many good players. Playing 6 tables isn't fun, but as a job it makes sense. Just the rakeback from playing 400 hands an hour is $25, so if I only broke even it would be a decent job. Oh, and I think a history of attention deficit disorder probably helps. It's definitely not hard to stay focused, but I can only play about 2 hours before a break.

Steve

Guy McSucker
09-16-2004, 05:47 PM
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you can make more playing massive amounts of hands in a straightforward manner


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How straightforward is straightforward?

E.g. you raise with AK and miss the flop. Meanwhile you have TT, A9s, QJo, and KTs at the other tables. Do you bet the flop with AK? And the turn, unimproved, against one check-caller?

Just wondering. I can't do more than three tables full, and two 6-max.

Guy.

tripdad
09-16-2004, 05:54 PM
i can't find anything bad in your numbers. your win $ at showdown is a tad lower than mine, but you make up for it by going to showdown more often.

very nice!

ChicagoTroy
09-16-2004, 05:55 PM
This may be a dumb question, but most sites only allow you to play four tables. Are you playing multiple sites, and if so is it hard to adjust from PP and PS 5-10 games?

lacky
09-16-2004, 06:19 PM
I have accounts through 2 party skins. So it is through 2 sites but all the same tables. Before anyone asks, no, it does not allow you at the same table with both accounts. It's a good thing too, otherwise it would be easy to sit at the same table without meaning to.

Steve

lacky
09-16-2004, 06:37 PM
Straightforward ends up being very straightforward. If I raise preflop I generally bet the flop. Against one remaining I would bet the turn. Against 3 I usually don't. If I had to think it through each time I couldn't keep up. After 100's of thousands of hands you just do what you did the other 1000 times the situation came up. The close decisions are close, so a quick decision doesn't give up much either way. I guess what has pushed me to play more hands is the rakeback. It’s good knowing I made so much an hour regardless of the outcome of my play (assuming I don’t go broke). The more hands I can play the more that amount per hour is. So far my results have been good, so I keep playing all I can keep up with. If the general level of the opponents goes up it could get tougher. I know at 15/30 my win rate is positive but pretty dismal still.

Steve

Blarg
09-17-2004, 04:14 AM
Hiya and grats on those numbers! That's a heckuva nice earn rate, and the rake added on top means you're pulling in some pretty dang good money.

Did you just go directly to 5/10 6-max or did you spend time at Party 1/2 or Pokerstars 2/3 and 3/6?

lacky
09-17-2004, 05:18 AM
Straight to 5/10, but I came down from 15/30 to do it so the amounts seem pretty resonable by comparison. It would be hard to stay motivated at 1/2 and would mean a loss of income ( one drawback to doing this for a living ) I figured if it worked out great, if I sucked I'd stop. I could lose 500 BB at 5/10 without it hurting my bankroll too much so not many worries.

I've had 2 breakeven sessions so my BB/100 is down to 3.4 now. My goal was 3 playing 4 tables, so if I can come in somewhere around 3 playing 6 tables I will be very pleased.

Steve

ChicagoTroy
09-17-2004, 11:28 AM
"2 party skins"

Can you elaborate? I can't launch two instances of PP normally, how is this done?

Nottom
09-17-2004, 12:30 PM
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"2 party skins"

Can you elaborate? I can't launch two instances of PP normally, how is this done?

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He has an account with Party as well as Empire (or other skin). Empire is a Party skin and allows access to the same tables as party.

BugsBunny
09-17-2004, 06:00 PM
Your limb broke /images/graemlins/smile.gif

I would like comments on these numbers though. My recent numbers are starting to change but by getting comments on these I'll know if I'm changing in the right direction. I'm winning (and the numbers say I'm definitely a wiining player at this point) but I'm certainly not optimum.

That VPIP number should be 25.76%, not 76%

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