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sloth469
09-15-2004, 03:04 AM
OK 64 left 60 pay. I'm playing to win and I need to get quite a few chips to be a contender. Is this an easy lay down or do I have odds?

Game #590856149 - Tournament Palmtree R&A - 2,000/4,000 No Limit Texas Hold'em -
2004/09/15-00:48:20 (CST)
Table "Palmtree R&A 24" (MTT) -- Seat 8 is the button
Seat 1: sloth469 (16,633 in chips)
Seat 2: TRICKI1 (23,897 in chips)
Seat 3: Dyna_Dave (74,461 in chips)
Seat 4: ShortyNC (27,215 in chips)
Seat 5: Mr.Cappy (33,930 in chips)
Seat 7: ruby davis (49,190 in chips)
Seat 8: tsunama (73,702 in chips)
Seat 9: OLD1EYE (36,172 in chips)
TRICKI1 : Ante (200)
Dyna_Dave: Ante (200)
ShortyNC: Ante (200)
ShortyNC said, "nh"
Mr.Cappy: Ante (200)
ruby davis: Ante (200)
tsunama : Ante (200)
OLD1EYE : Ante (200)
sloth469: Ante (200)
OLD1EYE : Post Small Blind (2,000)
sloth469: Post Big Blind (4,000)
Dealing...
Dealt to sloth469 [ Jc ]
Dealt to sloth469 [ Js ]
OLD1EYE said, "ty"
TRICKI1 : Fold
Dyna_Dave: Call (4,000)
ShortyNC: Fold
Mr.Cappy: Call (4,000)
ruby davis: Raise (8,000)
tsunama : Fold
OLD1EYE : Fold
sloth469: Raise (12,433)
Dyna_Dave: Call (12,433)
Mr.Cappy: Fold
ruby davis: Call (8,433)

Superfluous Man
09-15-2004, 12:58 PM
If your only goal is to sneak into the money (say, if this were a satellite where 60 spots pay), you could rationalize a fold here. You have something around 20 hands before you're completely blinded out, so 4 others may go bust before you're forced all-in with random cards.

But as you said, you're playing to win, so you need to double (or in this case, triple) up before your stack becomes insignificant. You already have a quarter of your stack invested in this pot, and you are about to lose even more to the small blind. This makes it an easy, easy play. Push all-in and hope for the best.

SossMan
09-15-2004, 01:03 PM
maybe i'm not reading your HH right...you have two black jacks and about 4x the BB with antes, right?

this has to be the easiest push ever.

sloth469
09-15-2004, 07:10 PM
Here is what happened afterwards.
sloth469: Raise (12,433)
Dyna_Dave: Call (12,433)
Mr.Cappy: Fold
ruby davis: Call (8,433)

I'm still not sure I couldn't fold here w/ so much action ahead of me I had little to no folding equity w/ my push.

Normally I'd feel great getting all my chips in w/ jj vs aqo and 9to. I've got to be about 40% here for over 3x what I started the hand with, right? Just getting that close to the money in a tournament that wasn't a sat and coming up short stung a little. Thanks for the response guys. I appreciate it.

-sloth