3/6...AKo...River Play

[RED_RAIN]

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, SB calls, <font color="CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls, SB calls.

Turn: (10 BB) A/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 folds, SB folds, <font color="CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (16 BB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero ?

Is it best to call or raise again on this river card?

[Piiop]

Do you really think you just counterfeited J6?

I would just call. He 3-bet the flop against a preflop raise and 2 cold-callers and 3-bet the turn when the Ace came. I think he can beat your AK.

[RED_RAIN]

So would you fold river or play turn different?

[tipperdog]

Raising would be a poker crime. It's looks like you're beat (either by a full house, trip 3s, or aces-up), but you must make a crying call given the size of the pot.

[nepenthe]

You know, it may not be such a bad idea to let it go on the flop. Your K and A outs may already be shot by the time BB 3-bets.

See what refusing to fold your hand after this terrible flop action got you on the turn. Now you don't want to fold, don't want to call, don't want to face another 3-bet.

For christ's sake, don't raise the river.

[RED_RAIN]

Thanks for the replies.

I think maybe just calling the turn would be best.

To not even think about a river raise.

Results below:
BB has 6s Jd (two pair, jacks and sixes).
Hero has Kd As (two pair, aces and threes).
Outcome: Hero wins 18 BB.

[sthief09]

I like the turn raise, since it's very likely you're best and there are 2 players to act behind you. A river raise would definitely be overboard. You wouldn't even be asking if he didn't show J6

[Ralph Wiggum]

This guy hasn't slowed down. He's got you beat. Call.

[Ralph Wiggum]

16 BB in the pot, I don't think folding is an option.

[Piiop]

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So would you fold river or play turn different?

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No, no. Maybe I might not raise the turn... nah, I would.

[dejableu]

I agree with sthief. The turn raise was good. BB did not three-bet you preflop, which a player of his aggression level would have done with JJ. So for him to have a set, it had to be 66 or 33.

Thus, when you see that A on the turn, you are only concerned about 66, 33, or AJ. He could just as easily have aggressively bet the flop with KJ, QJ, or JT, hands that you now dominate.

However, once you are again 3-bet on the turn, it looks like you are in trouble or up against a maniac. I call down and expect to lose to a full house, 6s full of 3s.

[RED_RAIN]

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wouldn't even be asking if he didn't show J6

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Right on target. I guess I didn't logically look at what hands he would have that I could beat on the river. Thanks!