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Danenania
09-13-2004, 11:00 PM
Typical table. No read.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, SB completes, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, Button folds, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (9.50 BB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>

Check or bet?
Fnord
09-13-2004, 11:01 PM
I'm almost thinking check/raise. I think you just made a bigger 2 pair or he missed his flush...
Evan
09-13-2004, 11:01 PM
If you're gonna bet the river you should've bet the turn.
Danenania
09-13-2004, 11:04 PM
Why's that?
Garland
09-13-2004, 11:05 PM
I would prefer 4-betting the flop and leading the turn.

Bet only if you're willing to call a raise, otherwise, check and call.

Garland
MoreWineII
09-13-2004, 11:08 PM
I'd bet &amp; call a raise. I don't think MP2 3-bets with a straight draw on the flop or limps with JJ or QQ preflop. I think his QJ just got counterfeited and/or he missed his flush.
joker122
09-13-2004, 11:13 PM
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I'm almost thinking check/raise. I think you just made a bigger 2 pair...

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The only 2 pair that got counterfitted here were K5 and Q5. These hands aren't particularly likely.
joker122
09-13-2004, 11:17 PM
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I think his QJ just got counterfeited

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QJ never had 2 pair. I'm beggining to think I'm crazy.

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and/or he missed his flush.

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If this is the case betting is incorrect.
MoreWineII
09-13-2004, 11:22 PM
Yah, well, I'm retarded so there!
DrewOnTilt
09-14-2004, 12:10 AM
55 is a distinct possibility, in which case you are screwed. Also, I wouldn't put it past some players to limp with KQo in middle or early position, in which case MP screwed himself.
Evan
09-14-2004, 12:15 AM
The only thing that could've changed on the river is we're now beating Q5, an unlikely holding. If you're ahead on the river than you were ahead on the turn. Also, more hands we're beating will call a turn bet.