Crazy Pineapple books?

[wop squad]

are there any out there, or any website with strategy information?

[Q8offsuit]

I really don't think there are any books on Pineapple (crazy or otherwise) although I would be highly interested in reading one! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Duke]

The problem with getting someone to put the time and effort into a book on Crazy Pineapple, or Badugi, or any of the other exotic games is the lack of a market.

I could collaborate with a buddy of mine who has been playing a ton of Badugi recently, we could work out the math, and codify a lot of the ideas used in playing the hands optimally. But maybe 50 people in the world know what the game is. Those same 50 people wouldn't buy the book. So after several months of putting a lot of time into the creation of a quality text, there would be nothing to show for it.

The same is true for Crazy Pineapple, though maybe 200 people would buy that book. It's just not worth it for someone to put that kind of time into that endeavor.

I think this is the reason that there is approximately one book on Chinese Poker.

~D

[Phat Mack]

Crazy Pineapple for Advanced Players (http://www.everythingsbusted.com/p0cker/CrazyPineapple.html)

[wop squad]

i saw this online, pretty funny actually. It does have some info on high low pineapple.

[wop squad]

found this in the archive,

Crazy Pineapple
Posted by: NotQuiteDead (smagie@hotmail.com)
Posted on: Thursday, 28 June 2001, at 5:52 p.m.

I have just recently learned the rules to Crazy Pineapple, and it is played at a casino near my home...I have been trying without success, though, to find any information (online or otherwise) on proper strategies for this game.

I have plenty of hold 'em experience, but I want to find out how the extra card in Crazy Pineapple changes things. Does anyone know where I could find any resources that might help me? Or, does anyone have any tips they could give me from personal experience?

Thanks in advance.

NotQuiteDead




Re: Crazy Pineapple
Posted by: Buzz (PacPalBuzz@aol.com)
Posted on: Thursday, 28 June 2001, at 7:09 p.m.

NotQuiteDead - The extra card changes things a good deal. In addition, there is a big difference between playing in a straight high game and a high-low game with an 8 or better qualifier for low.

Roughly, the average crazy pineapple high hand is about three times better than the average high hand in Texas hold 'em. That's because there are three two-card combinations from which to make a hand after the flop. But the main thing you want to do is play hands having a good chance of scooping.

Not sure where your home is. If you're in the L.A. area, there is a weekly low-limit Sunday tournament (starts shortly after noon) at the Bicycle Club Casino. I think low-limit tournaments are a good place to learn how to play different games.

Just my opinion.

Buzz




Re: Crazy Pineapple
Posted by: Mike Norton (nicerivercard@yahoo.com)
Posted on: Thursday, 28 June 2001, at 11:34 p.m.

Notquitedead,

Not sure, but I've played in pineapple games where you toss one of your hole cards either before or after the flop and play like regular holdem. Do I have the wrong game, or are there different variations depending on location?

I think that Tahoe Pineapple is the variation where it's played like 3 card omaha, where you can make high/low qualifiers with different cards in your hand. Good starting hands here are obviously hands with suited aces in them (AA2, A23, A24, A2Q, A2K, even A34) thereby giving you straight, flush, and pair potential. You want to stay away from hands that draw to weak lows and less than nut straights and flushes (K high flushes will usually be OK to draw to). Stay away from middle cards, they're terrible. Three high cards (T or better), 2 suited are pretty good too because with no low, they give the opportunity to scoop.

In crazy pineapple, you're going to be involved in a lot more multiway pots because people are going to be looking at 3 cards instead of 2. The rule of tossing a card prior to the flop might be only in certain areas. In that case, the game will be played much like holdem. However, if you toss a card after the flop, you'll have a lot more info about your hand potential. It also makes it harder to throw away your hand later if you flop a good draw, or 2 pair, etc.

Look to capitalize with smaller pairs (4s-9s) because people will not play hands with these cards. Big unsuited cards are going to lose value because many people will be playing these and you'll be counterfeited when you're looking for one. Play big suited cards aggressively if you flop a flush draw because of the incredible implied odds you'll be getting.

Be careful of medium suited connectors if you flop a flush draw because you won't be drawing to the nuts and might very well be beaten if you get there.

Also, pay attention to how many preflop callers the game is having. The number of people calling will tell you what kinds of hands you can play. Position is key, even more so than regular holdem, so play very few hands up front and even in middle position. If I can't make trips (at the very least) after the flop, then I won't chase.

You'll need a made hand often in these low limit games or in the early rounds of the tournament. The higher the stakes or the later in the tournament, then you can be much more aggressive with the bigger cards (like NL holdem).

I hope this helps and that I haven't given bad advice. I also hope I haven't rambled on too long.

Regards, Mike





Re: Crazy Pineapple
Posted by: NotQuiteDead (smagie@hotmail.com)
Posted on: Friday, 29 June 2001, at 5:27 p.m.

The game I'm referring to is high only, dealt 3 cards and one is tossed after the flop.

Thanks for all your advice. The reason I'm interested in this game is because I watched it played at the Bicycle Casino in LA, and the game was very loose...seemed like a good game for someone who knew what they were doing. I've only watched once so far, so who knows if the game is always like that.

NotQuiteDead




Re: Crazy Pineapple
Posted by: PokerPL
Posted on: Saturday, 30 June 2001, at 2:37 a.m.

I play only big pairs and big suited cards ONLY!

Small sets and small flushes in this game are very expensive.

In the game i play in the average winning hand is 2 pair so you better have the top 2.




Re: Crazy Pineapple
Posted by: RGP Lurker
Posted on: Wednesday, 11 July 2001, at 3:16 a.m.

Go to RGP and search for "Crazy Pineapple for Advanced Players" in the archives. It's actually a good two - three page reference on the game. Includes some high-only advice also if I'm not mistaken.