I have to call, right?

[mak1277]

I think I probably should've checked on the flop, instead of leading out, but the money would've gotten in anyway. Once the bet got around to me again I was getting about 7-1 on my call. In retrospect, however, I only had 5 nut outs (if I did the math right) and only 11 outs total after subtracting the flush cards. I still think the odds were right, but I'm just learning Omaha and would like some "expert" opinions.

Thanks

0/0 OmahaHiGameTable (PL) - Sun Sep 12 23:53:13 EDT 2004
Table Showdown (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: MP1 ( $115.55)
Seat 2: MP2 ( $22.75)
Seat 3: MP3 ( $12.90)
Seat 4: LP1 ( $61.45)
Seat 5: LP2( $31.50)
Seat 6: Button ( $56.50)
Seat 7: SB ( $54.35)
Seat 8: Hero ( $18.25)
Seat 9: UTG ( $24.50)
Seat 10: UTG+1 ( $23.50)
SB posts small blind (0.25)
Hero posts big blind (0.50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 3 /images/graemlins/club.gif, 6 /images/graemlins/club.gif, 5 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4 /images/graemlins/club.gif ]
UTG calls (0.50)
UTG+1 calls (0.50)
MP1 calls (0.50)
MP2 folds.
MP3 calls (0.50)
LP1 folds.
LP2calls (0.50)
Button raises (1) to 1
SB folds.
Hero calls (0.50)
UTG calls (0.50)
UTG+1 calls (0.50)
MP1 calls (0.50)
MP3 calls (0.50)
LP2calls (0.50)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 5 /images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2 /images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif ]
Hero bets (6.90)
UTG raises (23.50) to 23.50
UTG is all-In.
UTG+1 folds.
MP1 folds.
MP3 calls (11.90)
MP3 is all-In.
LP2folds.
Button calls (23.50)
Hero calls (10.35)
Hero is all-In.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ad ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Kd ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: $52.15 | Side Pot 1: $15.75 | Side Pot 2: $12.50 | | Rake: $3
Board: [ 5s 2s 7d Ad Kd ]
MP3 balance $0, lost $12.90 [ 6d As 4h 6s ] [ a pair of aces -- As,Ad,Kd,7d,6d ]
Button balance $32, lost $24.50 [ Jh Qd Ks Qs ] [ a pair of kings -- Ad,Ks,Kd,Qd,7d ]
Hero balance $67.90, bet $18.25, collected $67.90, net +$49.65 [ 3c 6c 5d 4c ] [ a straight, ace to five -- Ad,5s,4c,3c,2s ]
UTG balance $12.50, bet $24.50, collected $12.50, lost -$12 [ 7h Kh Jd 7c ] [ three of a kind, sevens -- Ad,Kd,7h,7c,7d ]

[Acesover8s]

I would've played it exactly the same way.

[mak1277]

If I (and the rest of the table) have much deeper stacks, would it be more correct to check the flop? Fold to the pot-sized re-raise?

[thetman]

I check the flop and call hoping to hit on the turn. If I miss, I don't call another pot sized bet. I fold and wait for a better spot.

[Big O]

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I check the flop and call hoping to hit on the turn. If I miss, I don't call another pot sized bet. I fold and wait for a better spot.

[/ QUOTE ]

I would have done the same. Check, call fold on the turn if you miss. So many players in on the hand, someone is going for the flush, someone has a set, and maybe a better str8 draw. Doesnt matter if you money is going in anyway, let someone else bet this one for you,

[Big O]

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I check the flop and call hoping to hit on the turn. If I miss, I don't call another pot sized bet. I fold and wait for a better spot.

[/ QUOTE ]

I would have done the same. Check, call fold on the turn if you miss. So many players in on the hand, someone is going for the flush, someone has a set, and maybe a better str8 draw. Doesnt matter if you money is going in anyway, let someone else bet this one for you,

[Beavis68]

I dont understand why you are even in this hand.

[mak1277]

Thanks Beavis, but you can expand on that? The pre-flop raiser had min-raised every single hand that he played, so I discounted a big hand from him. I also knew that all the limpers would call, so I figured I was getting a good price on a hand that wasn't awful.

[MBW3131]

check and fold if there is a pot size bet. you may hit your hand but another may catch a bigger hand.. likely someone will be drawing to flush which has better odds than your draw..

[Saucy]

That's flat-out wrong, the flush does not have better odds than this straight draw, even if you remove the straight outs that are spades.

Although it *is* true that of course the problem with the straight draw is it is more likely than the flush draw to hit and still lose.