Interesting situation

[Mikey2k4]

This happened in my home game last night. 10 person, $10 buy-in. 50/30/20 prizes. Start out with t2850. (Don't ask why - it just works out that way.) Blinds start out at 15/30, with 10 ante and we go up every fifteen minutes.

The situation is this:
I'm in BB with roughly t5000 (second place) and 84o. Blinds are 200/400 right now, and we're six-way.

UTG folds. UTG+1 folds. CO goes all-in (t575 total). Button calls. SB folds. I call the all-in since it's only t175. (First question: good or bad here? Only a small amount, and I have a chance to get REALLY lucky to knock someone out.)

Flop comes out 558. Hero checks. Button checks.

Turn is an 8. Hero checks. Button goes all-in. He is actually the chip leader with roughly t7000 or so. Hero ??????

Do I lay down the boat because I'm only invested t175 (t575 total)? Call down the raiser and show him who's boss? What? Button is a lucky player. A bit LAGgy, but not maniacal. He will pull stuff out of his butt.

Results to follow.

[EnderW27]

When it's 175 to me and I'm getting 8:1 on my call, the only thing I'm checking my cards to see is if I have two of them. If so, I believe I will call.

As for the turn decision...

If the button has 55, that is truly the worst played quads in the history of the game.

What I'm suspecting is this: he has an overpair that for some reason he didn't raise pf with or bet the flop with and then completely screws up the turn by massively overbetting the pot not even contemplating the fact that the only hand that can call him is one that beats him.

So you call him. He gets his 5% reprieve and hits a higher full house on the river.

How close am I?

[Scotch78]

I don't see how you could not call this. Futhermore, I don't see how you could not go all-in yourself if he'd made a smaller bet. I'd wipe the saliva off my chin and call the chook.

Scott

[The4thFilm]

This better be a joke.

[Scotch78]

No, the salivating is not literal, but I do call the all-in 100% of the time and expect to win (or split) 99% of the time, and usually win.

Scott

[MissOt]

if you have AA and the CL raises when you are second it is often a good play to fold and not get in his way.

[The4thFilm]

Haha, I was referring to the original poster! I would salivate too.

[random]

Sounds about right, Ender.

[gmunny]

You have to call, the only hand you can lose to is 55, but that seems unlikey since he went all in. My guess is he has a 5 or an ace.
G$

[meep_42]

I'm pretty sure my chips beat his into the pot.

-d

[Mikey2k4]

So I make an instaneous call. (Well, nearly instantaneous, after I tell him, "You have pocket 5's? You better have something, if you're going to raise, and we can BOTH take out the other guy." Something along those lines. No Matusow-esque tirade.)

Button flips over A8s, versus my 84o.

We both have full houses, so we'll most likely chop.

River is an Ace, giving him eights full of aces, versus my eights full of fives. D'OH!!!

So Ender (and random) were both right. The crazy part is that I had to convince the other guy that I had lost. /images/graemlins/smile.gif Oh well. I see it as a very unfortunate confluence of events.

1) it was only an additional 175 to call
2) I hit a damn good hand (only quad 5's and quad 8's beat me)
3) Button also had a damn good hand (that actually was better, since he could hit his kicker, where mine could not)
4) He hit his kicker (5% chance)
5) He was chip leader, and I was 2nd in chips.

Oh well.

[Acesover8s]

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2) I hit a damn good hand (only quad 5's and quad 8's beat me)

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Losing to quad 5's would be bad enough! But imagine losing to quad 8s! Especially with 2 on the board and one in your hand.

Jokers-wild holdem is the nuts!

[Mikey2k4]

lol - forgot about that. I think I was imagining a scenario where I held pocket 5's, slowplayed it, and a similar situation happened to me, and I would run into pocket 8's.

FWIW, I knew only quad 5's would have beaten me in that particular situation. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[LetsRock]

I think I would have risked the odd chance that he had 55 to double up or at worse chop. He probably had an Ace and went for the buy - could he have put you on an 8?