TacoVendor
09-12-2004, 04:09 PM
The hand in question is below. Results are in white, and I put them here because they are not really important to what I am looking for. I would like to gather some advise on my thinking during the betting.
1st hand of a Party 5+1 STT. Of course I have no reads on opponents except for one key player in the hand. Read through the hand for my thoughts.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)
saw flop|<font color="C00000">saw showdown</font>
MP2 (t800)
<font color="C00000">MP3 (t800)</font>
CO (t800)
<font color="C00000">Hero (t800)</font>
<font color="C00000">SB (t800)</font>
BB (t800)
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t800)
Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="CC3333">UTG raises to t30</font>,
UTG+1 folds,
UTG+2 folds,
MP1 folds,
MP2 calls t30,
MP3 calls t30,
**I have previous notes about MP3 which show he is VERY loose and calls to see nearly every flop - I am not worried about this person at all
CO folds,
<font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t80</font>,
**With a single raise from an early position to me I thought this might be best. Would 125 or so have been better?
<font color="CC3333">SB raises to t300</font>,
**I thought this bet was much too strong. My thought was that he was trying to push everyone from the pot and grab a good amount of chips early. If I had bet 125 or more and seen this raise, I would have dumped it.
BB folds,
UTG folds,
MP2 folds,
MP3 calls t270,
**This call does not surpise me with this player. Still not worried about him.
<font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t800 (All-In)</font>,
**This is where I sat for a moment. I didn't want to just call because I knew that if I pushed here that MP3 would call it. My thinking was that if I win the coin-flip with the SB then I triple up early and am very strong for the wild front end like these 5+1 tourney usually get.
SB calls t500 (All-In),
MP3 calls t500 (All-In).
**No surprise on MP3
Flop: (t2475) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font>
Turn: (t2475) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font>
River: (t2475) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font>
Final Pot: t2475
Results in white below: <font color="white">
SB has 8d 8c (one pair, eights).
MP3 has Qc 4h (two pair, queens and fours).
Hero has Ks Ah (high card, ace).
Outcome: MP3 wins t2475. </font>
Some additional info:
I typically play the $10 and $20 STT's at Party, but sit at the $5 ones when I just feel like getting a bunch of hands in cheaply to ready for the cheap and loose MTT's that Party runs. I see often the first couple of rounds in these $5 STT's very crazy and my goal is to double up in the first orbit against the loose players.
I do know, and I did see at the time, that my hand was pretty much a coin-flip against whatever the SB had, but I figured that it was worth pushing on that one to try and triple up.
Was my bet in line with odds for the pot size?
Thanks for the help.
1st hand of a Party 5+1 STT. Of course I have no reads on opponents except for one key player in the hand. Read through the hand for my thoughts.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)
saw flop|<font color="C00000">saw showdown</font>
MP2 (t800)
<font color="C00000">MP3 (t800)</font>
CO (t800)
<font color="C00000">Hero (t800)</font>
<font color="C00000">SB (t800)</font>
BB (t800)
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t800)
Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="CC3333">UTG raises to t30</font>,
UTG+1 folds,
UTG+2 folds,
MP1 folds,
MP2 calls t30,
MP3 calls t30,
**I have previous notes about MP3 which show he is VERY loose and calls to see nearly every flop - I am not worried about this person at all
CO folds,
<font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t80</font>,
**With a single raise from an early position to me I thought this might be best. Would 125 or so have been better?
<font color="CC3333">SB raises to t300</font>,
**I thought this bet was much too strong. My thought was that he was trying to push everyone from the pot and grab a good amount of chips early. If I had bet 125 or more and seen this raise, I would have dumped it.
BB folds,
UTG folds,
MP2 folds,
MP3 calls t270,
**This call does not surpise me with this player. Still not worried about him.
<font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t800 (All-In)</font>,
**This is where I sat for a moment. I didn't want to just call because I knew that if I pushed here that MP3 would call it. My thinking was that if I win the coin-flip with the SB then I triple up early and am very strong for the wild front end like these 5+1 tourney usually get.
SB calls t500 (All-In),
MP3 calls t500 (All-In).
**No surprise on MP3
Flop: (t2475) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font>
Turn: (t2475) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font>
River: (t2475) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font>
Final Pot: t2475
Results in white below: <font color="white">
SB has 8d 8c (one pair, eights).
MP3 has Qc 4h (two pair, queens and fours).
Hero has Ks Ah (high card, ace).
Outcome: MP3 wins t2475. </font>
Some additional info:
I typically play the $10 and $20 STT's at Party, but sit at the $5 ones when I just feel like getting a bunch of hands in cheaply to ready for the cheap and loose MTT's that Party runs. I see often the first couple of rounds in these $5 STT's very crazy and my goal is to double up in the first orbit against the loose players.
I do know, and I did see at the time, that my hand was pretty much a coin-flip against whatever the SB had, but I figured that it was worth pushing on that one to try and triple up.
Was my bet in line with odds for the pot size?
Thanks for the help.